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Enchanter donor
Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 3:31 pm
by lpdfan
My chanter has donor 2.0, the one that casts a group illusion. Currently, the buff hits group members but their appearance does not change. I'm trying to find out if this is just a case of my client having issues or is this the case with everyone?
Can someone else with this donor sound off please?
Item:
http://www.thehiddenforest.org/webtools/items.php?id=18395I am running UF client.
Thanks!
Re: Enchanter donor
Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:17 pm
by Nexor
2 : Effect type : Add Proc:Touch of the Enchanted
12 : Effect type : Increase Damage v2 All Skills by 15%
No illusion effect on it currently, didn't played in the last 3 years however as i went over several posts and 3 years of news i believe ppl complained about stacking issue from the illusion of the donor and that why it mostly got removed.
Re: Enchanter donor
Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 9:49 pm
by lpdfan
Yep, you're right. There it is.
Maybe devs can correct the donator weapons description to reflect the lack of illusion on this buff?
Also, it would be nice if maybe the devs can look at adding a little something extra to this buff. When compared to other donor buffs, it is lacking. Shammy's WOA, for example, is a much much better buff. And Shammys, in most people's opinions, have more going for them than chanters already.
Maybe at least you'd be willing to extend the duration of the buff to woa-like time and lessen the recast to instant. That way donor chanters would be able to keep this buff on raids and expand their usefulness a bit. That doesn't seem to me to be any kind of over-powered game changer - correct me if I'm wrong.
Thoughts on this?
Re: Enchanter donor
Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 10:15 pm
by Melkor
lpdfan wrote:Yep, you're right. There it is.
Maybe devs can correct the donator weapons description to reflect the lack of illusion on this buff?
Also, it would be nice if maybe the devs can look at adding a little something extra to this buff. When compared to other donor buffs, it is lacking. Shammy's WOA, for example, is a much much better buff. And Shammys, in most people's opinions, have more going for them than chanters already.
Maybe at least you'd be willing to extend the duration of the buff to woa-like time and lessen the recast to instant. That way donor chanters would be able to keep this buff on raids and expand their usefulness a bit. That doesn't seem to me to be any kind of over-powered game changer - correct me if I'm wrong.
Thoughts on this?
It has something you're missing, "12 : Effect type : Increase Twin Cast Chance by 100%"
That is a pretty beastly buff right there that lasts over 2 minutes. making that permanent would just be silly.
Re: Enchanter donor
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:37 am
by Beatboxin
Chanters have more of a purpose then you know from T8-T9 donor excluded and TBH raid's would not last long without 1-2 of them end game.
As for the buff I think it's fine the way it is I can perma keep it up on my melee group and as sick as the buff is I'd hate to see it changed so that you can cast on more then 1 group. For in its current state being able to cast on raids or more then one group would be to OP.
Re: Enchanter donor
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:51 am
by lpdfan
I would certainly not expect the recourse to be permanently up, I agree with 100% double cast being OP if it is extended.
I also am not saying that enchanters have no purpose - you misquote me. I do know that they are needed for endgame raids, i have done some of them and been the chanter in those raids. However, being useful for a few endgame raids and being a widely playable class are two different things. I realize that you Gnomercy folk are at that stage, but most players are not.
Chanters on live were sought after not only for their CC, but also for their buffs. When was the last time chanter buffs were asked for or offered by players here?
My point is that if the buff is re-envisioned to be something beneficial for players throughout the levels, chanters may become a class desired for more than just a few end-game raids. I realize that there is little chance of this happening now, but it was worth a try.
Cheers
Re: Enchanter donor
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 2:49 am
by Beatboxin
They have the best debuffs in the game imho ( I listed rk.III for thats what I use but I and II are just as awesome) for any raid tier..
Euphoric Bliss Rk. IIIEntwining Thoughts Rk. IIIEuphoric Noose Rk. IIIEuphoric Spasm Rk. IIIOverbearing Power Rk. IIIAlso there buffs are legit and all are used on raids/grouping though you don't see them asked for in ooc is A. there short duration cause there so badass B. people don't know..
Insight of the Seer Rk. IIIMana Inferno Rk. IIIVisions of Power Rk. IIIChanter 2.0
Ethulin, The Burning Star is one of the best buffs for my or any melee group however chanters in game also have 1.0
Staff of the Phantasmist to use over 2.0 or both and imho makes them an asset to any group/raid at any lvl.
Just my 2 cents

Re: Enchanter donor
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:23 am
by lpdfan
I agree with everything you posted. They are great in raids for a lot of reasons. That wasn't what I was arguing, though. But I can see my message is not being understood so I'll let it drop.
Thanks for the input.