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Bard 2.0

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:39 pm
by Desimus
Hey guys I just got Lullaby her 2.0 (bard) and I realized that there is only one Effect on it. Every other 2.0 has 2 Effects on it except for this one. Further more. The recast on the item is 10 minutes and a duration of 1 minute. This is very far out of line with the other 2.0's. Would someone please take a look at this and change to a recast / delay that is inline with the others and add another effect so that this is similar to the other 2.0's?

Thanks in advance! :)

http://www.thehiddenforest.org/item.php?id=6540

After testing this I just noticed another issue. The 2.0 click removes my rogue's 2.0 click effect... this somewhat defeats the purpose. Any help would be appreciate! http://www.thehiddenforest.org/item.php?id=6553

Re: Bard 2.0

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:49 pm
by Koeril
Seriously, that custom effect on the Rogue 2.0 causes more problems. Probably going to be less work to change it rather than all the other effects/AA's which conflict with it.

Re: Bard 2.0

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:02 pm
by Desimus
Well this is personally the first thing I've found that interferes that I even care about changing. Shaman 2.0 click stacks, my Duelist discipline stacks, bard songs stack, I don't really care about that deadly accuracy discipline since our accuracy is already so high... I never even click the discipline anymore now that it over rides the 2.0... it drops dps quite a bit when I do. I'm sure this issue can be resolved, I hope you guys can find an answer! Thanks! :)

Re: Bard 2.0

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:52 pm
by Desimus
Bump

Re: Bard 2.0

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:41 pm
by Tyler
I will review all 2.0 clicks soonish and will also pay attention to this specific issue.

Re: Bard 2.0

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:48 pm
by Desimus
Thank you Tyler :)

Re: Bard 2.0

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:39 pm
by Arremis
Item Description wrote:Bard skill: All instruments (+250%)

I thought that was the second effect :)

This is one thing that's always confused me about Emu Bards...
Do they need instruments?
Do instruments have any effect on their skills?
How handy are they for groups and raids?
I don't see too many bards around, so I'm unsure as to how playable they are. I haven't rolled one yet (mostly because I play on a laptop, which makes twisting a bit difficult).

Re: Bard 2.0

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:10 pm
by Desimus
No that is no the second effect, and upon further review... the Epic 1.5 has a proc and cleave + a click effect.... the 2.0 only has a click with the same duration and recast as the 1.5. So aside from ratio and hp the 2.0 is worse.

Re: Bard 2.0

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:39 am
by Tyler
Stacking with Rog and Bard epic is not solvable. They both use an effect of either Damage Modifier or Increased chance to hit.

I can remove the increased chance to hit from the Rog epic. Lure of Ice is already pretty potent buff itself. Up to you Rogues. In return i could increase the Proc duration to 10 mins or something longer and remove the recast.

Re: Bard 2.0

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:20 am
by Koeril
I'm fine with loosing the chance to hit. Honestly, I feel that will solve a LOT of problems, not just this one. It is likely this problem which also caused issues with all the discs and spells. I also assume that it will continue to be a problem from time to time.