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Frozen Savagesoul Armor

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:31 pm
by aabamzen
Noticed some inconsistencies in this armor set:

-Sandals have a 2hb mod. This should either be 1hb or h2h - I don't know of any BLs who use 2hb. It appears on other class armor sets that it is a mod applicable to the epic 1.5/2.0, so it should be 1hb.

-Gloves appear to have been given a focus, but it isn't properly linked. I'm going to guess it should have been ferocity v or cleave v.

Re: Frozen Savagesoul Armor

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 4:49 pm
by ChaosSlayer
on 2hb: ehem, you aware that with comparable ratios, a BST can produce DOUBLE amount of dps with a 2handed weapon than when dual wielding? ;)

Re: Frozen Savagesoul Armor

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 4:53 pm
by aabamzen
The lack of double attack (via aa only) makes me skeptical about that, but I'll grab a 2hb and try it out.

Re: Frozen Savagesoul Armor

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 5:09 pm
by ChaosSlayer
ah but thats exactly why 2handed weapons are superior for BST!

since you lack natural DA, when you get an extra attack from AA - it ONLY applies to main hand. Which means if you are DW you will go from 2 strikes to 3, but with 2hander you go from 1 strike to 2.

So let say you DW pair of 20/20 weapons vs a 60/30 2hb
Before that extra attack, they are more or less equal, but with extra attack, it becomes:
3x 20/20 vs 2x 60/30

These numbers of course are an approximation, but this is the general idea.
Of course at foundation of these estimates lies the condition that you have a comparable 2handed weapon.
On a subject of which see this post here:

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2554

Re: Frozen Savagesoul Armor

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 5:40 pm
by aabamzen
I don't want to get too into this, but a quick test on vlad shows that you can double attack from the offhand. I unequipped my haste items and mainhand (so punch is mainhand, crush is off) and click off haste so that the offhand would hit about every 2 sec if it fired.

[Fri Apr 23 11:37:22 2010] Logging to 'eqlog.txt' is now *ON*.
[Fri Apr 23 11:37:22 2010] You punch Vlad for 130 points of damage.
[Fri Apr 23 11:37:22 2010] You try to kick Vlad, but miss!
[Fri Apr 23 11:37:23 2010] You crush Vlad for 86 points of damage.
[Fri Apr 23 11:37:23 2010] Your Frozen Savagesoul Legguards begins to glow.
[Fri Apr 23 11:37:23 2010] Vlad was hit by non-melee for 255 points of damage.
[Fri Apr 23 11:37:23 2010] Vlad shudders.
[Fri Apr 23 11:37:23 2010] You crush Vlad for 273 points of damage.
[Fri Apr 23 11:37:24 2010] You try to punch Vlad, but miss!
[Fri Apr 23 11:37:24 2010] You punch Vlad for 64 points of damage.
[Fri Apr 23 11:37:25 2010] You crush Vlad for 566 points of damage.
[Fri Apr 23 11:37:25 2010] You crush Vlad for 131 points of damage.

[Fri Apr 23 11:37:27 2010] You punch Vlad for 106 points of damage.
[Fri Apr 23 11:37:27 2010] You punch Vlad for 76 points of damage.
[Fri Apr 23 11:37:27 2010] You crush Vlad for 143 points of damage.
[Fri Apr 23 11:37:27 2010] Your Frozen Savagesoul Legguards begins to glow.
[Fri Apr 23 11:37:27 2010] Vlad was hit by non-melee for 255 points of damage.
[Fri Apr 23 11:37:27 2010] Vlad shudders.
[Fri Apr 23 11:37:27 2010] You crush Vlad for 268 points of damage.

[Fri Apr 23 11:37:29 2010] You crush Vlad for 276 points of damage.
[Fri Apr 23 11:37:29 2010] You punch Vlad for 130 points of damage.
[Fri Apr 23 11:37:29 2010] You punch Vlad for 130 points of damage.
[Fri Apr 23 11:37:31 2010] You crush Vlad for 273 points of damage.
[Fri Apr 23 11:37:31 2010] You kick Vlad for 8 points of damage.
[Fri Apr 23 11:37:32 2010] You punch Vlad for 130 points of damage.
[Fri Apr 23 11:37:32 2010] You punch Vlad for 121 points of damage.
[Fri Apr 23 11:37:32 2010] You crush Vlad for 228 points of damage.
[Fri Apr 23 11:37:32 2010] Your Frozen Savagesoul Legguards begins to glow.
[Fri Apr 23 11:37:32 2010] Vlad was hit by non-melee for 255 points of damage.
[Fri Apr 23 11:37:32 2010] Vlad shudders.
[Fri Apr 23 11:37:32 2010] You try to crush Vlad, but miss!

[Fri Apr 23 11:37:32 2010] Your Frozen Savagesoul Legguards begins to glow.
[Fri Apr 23 11:37:32 2010] Vlad was hit by non-melee for 340 points of damage.
[Fri Apr 23 11:37:32 2010] Vlad shudders.
[Fri Apr 23 11:37:34 2010] You try to crush Vlad, but miss!
[Fri Apr 23 11:37:34 2010] Your Frozen Savagesoul Legguards begins to glow.
[Fri Apr 23 11:37:34 2010] Vlad was hit by non-melee for 340 points of damage.
[Fri Apr 23 11:37:34 2010] Vlad shudders.
[Fri Apr 23 11:37:34 2010] You crush Vlad for 94 points of damage.

[Fri Apr 23 11:37:34 2010] The Avatar departs.
[Fri Apr 23 11:37:34 2010] Your body screams with the power of an Avatar.
[Fri Apr 23 11:37:34 2010] You punch Vlad for 271 points of damage.
[Fri Apr 23 11:37:34 2010] You try to punch Vlad, but miss!
[Fri Apr 23 11:37:36 2010] You try to crush Vlad, but miss!
[Fri Apr 23 11:37:37 2010] You punch Vlad for 130 points of damage.
[Fri Apr 23 11:37:37 2010] You punch Vlad for 28 points of damage.

Now you've gotten me curious how 2hb vs a pair of 1h will do with panther procs, more data to come :D

Edit: As expected, more swings = more panther procs.

Re: Frozen Savagesoul Armor

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 6:52 pm
by ChaosSlayer
strange thing that just recently I was looking into if extra AA atack affects the off-hand the description specificaly stated its not. hmm..

yes the procs you get from buffs benefit from greater number of swings.
the procs from weapons on other hands, more common from slower weapons, to balance this off

Re: Frozen Savagesoul Armor

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 9:47 am
by fael
-Gloves appear to have been given a focus, but it isn't properly linked. I'm going to guess it should have been ferocity v or cleave v.


Still bugged.

Re: Frozen Savagesoul Armor

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 10:39 am
by Lillu
Gloves are fixed with next reboot.

Re: Frozen Savagesoul Armor

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 3:48 pm
by fael
Thanks for the quick answer and fix.

but improved block? :mrgreen: