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Aged Claw of Phara Dar
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: SECONDARY, PRIMARY
Skill : 1H Slashing Atk Delay: 20
DMG: 50 Dmg bonus: 15 (lvl70) AC: 65
Skill Mod: 1h_slashing +18%
Effect: Fiery Strike V (Combat)
STR: +20 STA: +20 WIS: +10 INT: +10 AGI: +15
HP: +720 MANA: +700 Endurance: +710
SV FIRE: +20 SV DISEASE: +25 SV COLD: +35 SV MAGIC: +20 SV POISON: +15
Required level of 70
WT: 4.5 Size: MEDIUM
Class: BST ROG BRD RNG WAR
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type: 8 empty
Slot 2, Type: 8 empty
Slot 3, Type: 16 empty

50/20, a straight dd proc, two 8's and a 16 type, tier 6 end boss

compared to tier 5 boss 1hb

Item:: Exquisite Pureorder Essence
Exquisite Pureorder Essence
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: SECONDARY, PRIMARY
Skill : 1H Blunt Atk Delay: 20
DMG: 58 Dmg bonus: 15 (lvl70) AC: 60
Effect: Life Sap VI (Combat)
DEX: +25 STA: +15 WIS: +15 INT: +15 AGI: +25 CHA: +35
HP: +625 MANA: +625 Endurance: +625
SV FIRE: +20 SV MAGIC: +20
Accuracy: +35
Required level of 70
WT: 1 Size: SMALL
Class: BST ROG BRD MNK RNG WAR
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type: 8 empty
Slot 2, Type: 8 empty

58/20 with double 8's and a much more useful proc, a lifetap.

It honestly seems like the 1hs from phara dar is actually a step worse than the item from xegony. IMO, switch the ratio's so that xegony goes to 50/20 with a tap proc and phara's goes to 58/20, the xegony 1hb is used by every single rogue / monk / ranger / warrior who doesn't want aggro, it set a standard for the offhand slot because it's got no weakness. No other weapon in the game gives you three lifetaps (after augging) with that kind of ratio and stats. I'm not sure if this post is more about the xeg blunt being OP, or the PD slasher just not being up to par, but it should definitely be looked at.

I actually thought the same and was gonna post about it too, however after thinking more about it i am getting more and more the idea that the claw will come way ahead in parses due the fact it will have 4 procs instead of 3.

My only problem is i didn't had time to get the augs and parse it yet since my PSU on my main comp poof, so will need to wait till friday or the weekend till i can farm the augs and do some parses.

The Claw is now 54/20 and it will have the possibility of 4 procs as already pointed out.

The Claw also has a procrate mod of 75% and the Xegony "only" 50%.

Good change

I would have killed you if you changed that Xegony blunt (obviously not literally)

Would it be maybe possible to add the Accuracy: +35 that the EPE got to the Claws.

Or someone enlighten me what the Accuracy cap here is cause when i compare both EPE and Claws it appears that i do lesser DPS and comparing to the 2 parses it appears that with Claws equip the miss rate is higher.

Rog 2.0 in primary Aged Claw of Phara Dar in offhand - unbuffed
Vlad in 301sec, for 1096897HP and your 3644dps at 8/25/2010 9:00:31 PM

Nexis -vs- Vlad: -- DMG: 1096897 -- DPS: 3644 -- Scaled: 3644 -- Backstab: 289867 -- Slash: 272415 -- Pierce: 272365 -- Hit: 262250 -- Non-crit rate: 60.9% -- crit rate: 39.1% -- Attempts: 1517 -- Hits: 1371 -- Missed: 146 -- Accuracy: 90.4% -- Avg Hit: 800 -- Max hit: 5358 -- DMG to PC: 0

Rog 2.0 in primary Exquisite Pureorder Essence in offhand - unbuffed
Vlad in 301sec, for 1184657HP and your 3936dps at 8/25/2010 9:06:40 PM

Nexis -vs- Vlad: -- DMG: 1184657 -- DPS: 3936 -- Scaled: 3936 -- Hit: 305910 -- Crush: 305203 -- Backstab: 296599 -- Pierce: 276945 -- Non-crit rate: 57.9% -- crit rate: 42.1% -- Attempts: 1479 -- Hits: 1384 -- Missed: 95 -- Accuracy: 93.6% -- Avg Hit: 855 -- Max hit: 5358 -- DMG to PC: 0

I am not more sure if the Accuracy is the problem the difference in both parses is only 3.6% but yet the EPE from 1 Tier below is almost 300 DPS more.

Both weapons are as far as i can say as good as possible or equally auged the claws actually have the advantage of 4 augs compare to EPE with 3 augs.
The char i used was my Rog Nexis http://www.thehiddenforest.org/magelo/character.php?char=Nexis

So what is wrong with the claws is the proc rate ? is it the missing Accuracy ?

So with the Box of Silver, you basically compare a 59/20 weapon against a 58/20 weapon?

And the 58/20 weapon does 300 DPS more than the 59/20 weapon?

My logic says, your parses are skewed. Let's find the reason or proof that my logic sux0r

The Claw also has a procrate mod of 75% and the Xegony "only" 50%.

When i parsed both weapons it was under the same conditions no buffs or discs and the only item that got switched out was the Claw or Epe.
And i actually noticed the same thing on my ranger but blamed it on lack of AA's and since he dont have 2.0 yet i use both actually.

If you want i can put both of em in primary with rog 2.0 in offhand to compare em than and post the result ,could also offer to do parses on my ranger or bard all 3 of my chars got the EPE and the Claws exactly the same auged and yes all got the box aug also.

Of course it could be also that my gear setup is causing the difference that why i actually thought its the accuracy and asked if the Claws could have the +35 accuracy added that they currently don't got.

In other words the result should be more the other way around and maybe someone else can parse both weapons fully auged under the same conditions too since its obviously better to have the results from more than one person.