The Hidden Forest

Didn't want to continue this debate in the "Ideas for platinum" thread and take up space there. Also not sure if this item is up for debate, if not please feel free to delete the thread.

At issue: price. 8k is still way way way too steep, imho As the price stands, it is only accessible in any usable quantities by players who have uncounted millions of platinum who merely want to buy a couple hoh items for an alt that they never bothered to /afk in HoH.

1 million platinum (no measly amount) at 8k/symbol = 6250 points (12500 with a djinn potion or neck clicky). I'm unsure if the price was adjusted this high due to the amount that afk traders place them for in bazaar, or if the feature is merely a tool to allow the *insanely* rich to purchase their way into dsk3, but as a means of acquiring points to a "normal" player it's out of reach.

The idea itself is GREAT. It removes platinum from the server pool, thus increasing it's value regardless of what tier you're in. It makes the currency very useful.

I just think that even at 5k it's a tad too expensive. Is there compromise to be had here? Perhaps 3-4k?

Thanks for listening

Edit: The price set by players in bazaar at 8-10k per symbol (the normal over the past few months, excluding those who racked up hundreds and hundreds of them by running 18 toons/day through the xmas scavenger hunt) was set by those who had stockpiled these symbols by farming them from the bosses. These players usually have many millions of platinum, and the price they set them at (which became the norm) was based off their deflated value of the currency. Just my food for thought

More data: Each symbol equates to 33 kills in hoh. 3 people working in tandem can somewhat easily acquire 33 kills each minute, but lets say 2 minutes for the heck of it. From a platinum perspective, it's still far far far more effective to farm mobs than platinum, as at this rate you'd be attaining 8kpp worth of points per toon in the raid every 2-3 minutes. Lowering the price on symbols will have likely no impact on raids farming trash for points.

In the end this is just an OPTION to get out of farming godly points. Choose to spend your platinum as you deem wise

People asked for a platinum sink, and the GMs delivered... maybe its time to ask for more prize wheels :p

fyi, if your charisma is maxed out.. the symbols are 7600

The prices were set high due to the fact that, like Jkwon stated, the symbol merchant was not designed to be a means for the "go-to" method to obtain the required HoH points to progress. While we know the price is high due to the inflation in PP across the server, the price also serves as a deterrent from using the merchant to "buy" your way through the zone. There have been ample changes to the Tier 8 zones to allow for quicker/faster farming methods and the Symbol merchant is another one of those.

While we are not saying that the 8k (7600 with charisma) is permanent, we are watching the economy and will make any necessary changes. That is also not saying that the price will drop either. Just simply that we have logs/internal-monitoring watching it all.

Understandable TY for the response.

It could be interesting to see dynamic prices on this. There could be an 'active platinum' count queried once per day where the symbols are priced at a fixed percent of that value. That value could be a query of all currency found on players, banks, and shared banks that have had activity in the last 3 months. I don't see the price as a compelling issue, but I do see validity in recognizing that as the economy deflates the value of merchant goods will rise. They're inversely proportional.

8k works too!

meh lets just leave it as it, its fine middle between 5 and 10k. And as noren said this should not be the go to way to get hoh points but more of well i have some extra pp and i sure would like to finish that aug or item or w/e.

Regards,
Sticky

Might I suggest that you change the SELL TO amount to some small insignificant number in order to urge those with symbols to sell to other players at sub 8k prices versus vendoring them at 7k+ each?

Warbeat

Sell back price was already set at about 1.5gp on reboot today.

Excellent, thanks Vaion!