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Aggro/Threat Problems

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 10:17 am
by ocsi
Hellos! I don't really know where to put this, or what to call it, or how to explain it, so here goes.

I've been trying to clear through some DSK3 on Eschew with an SK in my guild, but every time we encounter situations that require off-tanking the adds that the SK grabs, the adds just completely drop threat on the SK and run at Eschew even if I just sit there and do nothing.

i.e. During Maestro, the SK stops the adds from running to the coffins and drags them out of line of sight. We start to kill one, and two, or all three, of the other adds just turn and run to Eschew. I do not have auto attack on, I don't even use any buttons except for discs. This happens several times throughout the fight.

On Vasella, the adds can't even be taken off Eschew. The SK initially AE taunts when they spawn, but 2-3 seconds after they just run towards Eschew and we can't get them off. Similarly, I do not cast or do anything and it still happens.

We are completely at a loss... so if anyone has ideas what causes these problems, let me know :? The SK is Creaturex, and the warrior tank is Eschew. We also run 1 enchanter, 2 bards, 2 necros, 1 magician, 1 druid, 2 shamans, 1 cleric. We run the regular buffs, nothing special. SK runs Underfoot, I run SOD.

Re: Aggro/Threat Problems

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 1:25 pm
by moguay
I already had this bug in the past, it does not happen all the time, and I just killed them without the worries at the moment.

Re: Aggro/Threat Problems

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 4:18 pm
by rasjaziz
This has been happening to me as well for a while. I told Vaion about it a few weeks ago and he thought it might be linked to rune AE agro from the donor tank legs, but if you are saying your boss tank isn't doing ANYTHING and is still pulling agro, then clearly there is another issue.

Re: Aggro/Threat Problems

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 5:37 pm
by Denizen
Sk agro does sometimes seem to not work... as it is spell based, could be resistance to spells. IDK, tis annoying to say the least. I've wondered too if there could be differences in connection speeds with the slower connections being less capable of agro. :?:

Re: Aggro/Threat Problems

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 6:04 pm
by rasjaziz
I don't think it's specifically SK related. On the maestro fight I have my SK tank the adds but on vasella I use my warrior. The adds seem to go running in both cases.

Re: Aggro/Threat Problems

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 6:40 pm
by ocsi
rasjaziz wrote: I told Vaion about it a few weeks ago and he thought it might be linked to rune AE agro from the donor tank legs, but if you are saying your boss tank isn't doing ANYTHING and is still pulling agro, then clearly there is another issue.


I can go make a snack during the fight and the adds will still run to me probably :lol: I don't use anything at all, I basically don't even play the character and the SK still loses adds to me somehow. I even tried removing some VT gear with the worn effects but it didn't change anything.

Re: Aggro/Threat Problems

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 6:50 pm
by Sian
Are you a gnome....?

Re: Aggro/Threat Problems

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 6:52 pm
by ocsi
Sian wrote:Are you a gnome....?


Despite the bags of illusions I hold on myself at all times, I cannot deny that I am in fact a gnome! :mrgreen:

Re: Aggro/Threat Problems

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:14 am
by Stickybuds
During our dsk3 run tonight i didnt have any issues getting ae threat on adds.
The main tanks are Superhoss and Airion both wars with donor weapons and other goodies. They have amazing threat.

It only takes 1 cast of the rk3 beholder gaze to grab em. This is for maestro, vassella, and vule.
The times i did miss one a tuant and some nadox shield clicks would get it off the MT and onto me.

Here is my SK's magelo.
http://www.thehiddenforest.org/webtools ... cter=Takin

I use the mask worn focus, the agro buff from http://www.thehiddenforest.org/webtools ... p?id=39376 and the agro buff from the lifetap DoT http://www.thehiddenforest.org/webtools ... hp?id=8025 Touch of Draygun gives the buff http://www.thehiddenforest.org/webtools ... hp?id=8026 Gift of Draygun.

Re: Aggro/Threat Problems

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:24 am
by Stickybuds
Could try chain cast these 3 as well if you have these items, this should be more than enough to grab them

beholder gaze via spell gem
beholders gaze via clicky http://www.thehiddenforest.org/webtools ... ?id=121001
and Knights Power via clicky http://www.thehiddenforest.org/webtools ... hp?id=4963

Hmm i looked at his magelo, he doesnt have the ToV legs or nadox item. Got some farming to do =P