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DSK3

Post#1 » Sat Apr 21, 2018 2:10 am

Well it has finally happen i have hit a stand still in dsk3 which is 100% expected as i do not have the box power or enough in guild at the moment to move forward on Vesella. While i understand it was built for higher player count raids with the population at the moment i was wondering how hard it would be to possibly make it like Vex Thal with shared raid? I have many who have offered to go into dsk3 with me but do not care to leave guilds to do so. I also am quite fond of my guild and wish to also stay in it. Im sure its a long shot but figured id ask and hope for the best for some to progress with what we have at the moment.

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Re: DSK3

Post#2 » Sat Apr 21, 2018 2:59 am

How many toons are you running?
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dusta
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Re: DSK3

Post#3 » Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:14 am

I normally run 12. Being it is hardest zone in the game be nice to have more active players in raid verse boxing even more making it harder for me to even focus on what i need to do on certain phases. Vex Thal is nearly a walk in the park can be 1 grouped. Def need a hand in this zone its beyond my healing and tanking abils atm but i still do need few augs which may help eventually.

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Post#4 » Sat Apr 21, 2018 7:09 am

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Re: DSK3

Post#5 » Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:26 am

I would suggest making it less ridiculous(like most raid encounters post T6) and more feasible.

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Dred
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Post#6 » Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:29 am

dusta wrote:I normally run 12. Being it is hardest zone in the game be nice to have more active players in raid verse boxing even more making it harder for me to even focus on what i need to do on certain phases. Vex Thal is nearly a walk in the park can be 1 grouped. Def need a hand in this zone its beyond my healing and tanking abils atm but i still do need few augs which may help eventually.


I want to see a 1 group non-donor team have a walk in the park in Vex Thal. Probably wouldn't even make it out of the courtyard and if they did it would most likely be ugly and take forever with a lot of deaths. DSK3 is not about how much DPS you can put out but how well you can use what DPS you have effectively. Only the 1st 2 can be completely overpowered. The rest of them are all about strategy.
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Re: DSK3

Post#7 » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:22 am

I wouldn't mind it being an open raid zone like VT or something. I like being able to raid ( or going splat) with others. Especially with population and everyone liking their own guilds as stated above.

High end talented players such as Cad tend to like things with a challenge and strategy though. It adds a mix I suppose. I for one like the tank and spank because i'm not so talented :lol: .

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Re: DSK3

Post#8 » Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:22 pm

Dred wrote:
dusta wrote:I normally run 12. Being it is hardest zone in the game be nice to have more active players in raid verse boxing even more making it harder for me to even focus on what i need to do on certain phases. Vex Thal is nearly a walk in the park can be 1 grouped. Def need a hand in this zone its beyond my healing and tanking abils atm but i still do need few augs which may help eventually.


I want to see a 1 group non-donor team have a walk in the park in Vex Thal. Probably wouldn't even make it out of the courtyard and if they did it would most likely be ugly and take forever with a lot of deaths. DSK3 is not about how much DPS you can put out but how well you can use what DPS you have effectively. Only the 1st 2 can be completely overpowered. The rest of them are all about strategy.

Indeed i have currently made it do Dorv and stuck at him now till i can find where to park my group 2. Wich in time i will figure it out. VT compared to dsk 3 is not even a comparison in difficulty imo. It does have its tough stages yes but nothing like dsk3 where strats actually come into play. I manually play a lot of my toons which is why i asked for a shared instance because playing legit at times it can make it very very hard to progress. While i do use third party for healers etc i do try to keep it quite minimal so i dont ruin my play experience with easy mode stuff. Just be fun to actually interact and play with people on the server other then HoH and VT. And as always could always use the extra hand with harder events that are much easier for mult real players.

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Re: DSK3

Post#9 » Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:18 pm

mystickitty wrote:I wouldn't mind it being an open raid zone like VT or something. I like being able to raid ( or going splat) with others. Especially with population and everyone liking their own guilds as stated above.

High end talented players such as Cad tend to like things with a challenge and strategy though. It adds a mix I suppose. I for one like the tank and spank because i'm not so talented :lol: .

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I am not talented :lol: but I appreciate the compliment :D

Most zones are much easier with more real people. I much prefer to do DSK3/VT/etc with Vyrial and/or MK than do it alone but sometimes times and play schedules just don't line up unfortunately especially with MK and myself not really playing but a few days a month at best. I don't really use any macros either. 1 of the simplest heal macs ever and eqbc and that's it.

As far as it being raid instanced like VT I could def see why folks would want/like that. I kinda like it the way it is because like MIss Kitty said I like the strategy of it all. Being able to box something like Khasva which is very hard to box is fun for me because it makes me use my brain. I def screw it up occasionally :lol:
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Re: DSK3

Post#10 » Mon Apr 30, 2018 3:08 pm

Dred wrote:
mystickitty wrote:I wouldn't mind it being an open raid zone like VT or something. I like being able to raid ( or going splat) with others. Especially with population and everyone liking their own guilds as stated above.

High end talented players such as Cad tend to like things with a challenge and strategy though. It adds a mix I suppose. I for one like the tank and spank because i'm not so talented :lol: .

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I am not talented :lol: but I appreciate the compliment :D

Most zones are much easier with more real people. I much prefer to do DSK3/VT/etc with Vyrial and/or MK than do it alone but sometimes times and play schedules just don't line up unfortunately especially with MK and myself not really playing but a few days a month at best. I don't really use any macros either. 1 of the simplest heal macs ever and eqbc and that's it.

As far as it being raid instanced like VT I could def see why folks would want/like that. I kinda like it the way it is because like MIss Kitty said I like the strategy of it all. Being able to box something like Khasva which is very hard to box is fun for me because it makes me use my brain. I def screw it up occasionally :lol:


I can def understand that. Needing and wanting a challenge. But to some its very much already a challenge. With dsk3 i honestly feel if you dont have donor assistance or actually box 18 to 24 toons running pets etc i would find it crazy hard to be killed. Having been non donor myself for the time i was here then getting donors to be honest the donors are the only reason ive even made it as far as i have solo boxing it. Id prefer to have no donors and actual players who can struggle with me verse having to buy upgrades to do enough dps to beat the timers. Before i got donor pets and epics i def could not even get Valik to 50% before the timer wiped me. That was with 4 mage pets 1 necro pet 1 bst pet and other 6 toons drakeon pets. Thats a lot pet dmg to not even get to 50% mark. Imo it needs combined raids for this purpose for non donors to actually pump out the dps needed to get to a next phase. I may be over thinking it but trying to think as a casual player who was once casually geared and couldnt advance without help. I am by no means complaining about donor gear nothing of the sort just pure facts on the difference in dps with our population levels at the moment is main reason i even ask for this. Not enough active playing people in my guild to get the help i need in there.

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