Wizard problems

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khaliss
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Re: Wizard problems

Post#21 » Mon May 10, 2010 12:10 am

Let's not ask too much guys... Tyler has made these adjustments (the Epic changes are awesome!) to help us out, and that should be enough for now. Baby steps people :-)
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Alts: Khelogg, Khamirr, Khalynn, Khalidd, Khelann

Cfuson001
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Re: Wizard problems

Post#22 » Mon May 10, 2010 2:19 am

Yeah now we have got the 2.0 change coming i will finally be happy with my wiz and i think we will be in a good place. Thanks Tyler for helping us very few wizard players out.




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Tyler
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Re: Wizard problems

Post#23 » Mon May 10, 2010 6:50 am

Np, my goal always was to improve casters. Thats why we have custom pets (although no comparison to SoA or EZ Server pets), custom nukes, custom mana clicks etc etc.

On every goddamn EMU server you have WAR/CLE/ROG/MNK/SHM and maybe the occasional buff bot enchanter. Hell, the last couple of times i have been online i have been trying to hand out a free ENC Rank I Spell that someone let rot but none were online.
Item Change -> Reload needed
Spell Change -> Reload AND new Spellfile needed

Taladome
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Re: Wizard problems

Post#24 » Mon May 10, 2010 8:51 am

Thats a great change and will help alot, the only problem I see remaining is mana consumption right now its ok with two clickies giving full bar many of your bosses will die just as you run those out. As for future content and mobs with 5mil+ hp mana consumption gonna be a big concern still. Thanks Tyler

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Lola
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Re: Wizard problems

Post#25 » Mon May 10, 2010 2:19 pm

melees dps being re-scalled with today's update we will have to wait feedback to tune more if needed. (I also include comparaison between casters)

Tyler,
Besides that, mana issue (latest argument on the topic) for long fight would be solved if "improved gather mana" recast time on elemantal shoes "Powerful Silk Slippers" was reduced to 2min30 (instead of 5 min). That way High end Wiz (3K mana I could get more will not make me cast longer than 20 sec) would not suffer anymore from being oom and useless.

(Based on my parse being oom after 2min)

What do you think about that?

khaliss
Posts: 357

Re: Wizard problems

Post#26 » Mon May 10, 2010 4:19 pm

Tyler wrote:On every goddamn EMU server you have WAR/CLE/ROG/MNK/SHM and maybe the occasional buff bot enchanter.


WTF, that's my combo right now! Are you saying I'm cookie-cutter? :lol:

On a serious note, before we request for a reduction in gather-mana clicky CDs, let's wait for some parsing from 3M-4M hp mobs. Remember that melee procs have been drastically reduced... my good guess is that wizzies should now be pretty close to rogues/monks in long boss fights. WTB parses!
Main: Khaliss
Alts: Khelogg, Khamirr, Khalynn, Khalidd, Khelann

Taladome
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Re: Wizard problems

Post#27 » Mon May 10, 2010 4:56 pm

my findings were posted under class balancing if you wanna check it out.

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Lola
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Re: Wizard problems

Post#28 » Tue May 11, 2010 7:54 am

khaliss wrote:On a serious note, before we request for a reduction in gather-mana clicky CDs, let's wait for some parsing from 3M-4M hp mobs. Remember that melee procs have been drastically reduced... my good guess is that wizzies should now be pretty close to rogues/monks in long boss fights. WTB parses!


Hi Khaliss,

Evolution was the 1st guild in ST and 3M-4M Warders exist.
Issue with mana was already the case at this time with having higher CD / less mana recovery on gather items in 2009.
Even with those changes done with the gather clickies, for fights > 4 min, which will happen much more with procs revamped.
It is not like I just created a Wizard on THF when I bring up this point, it is just 10 months experience. I am patient on changes, just search on forums my post and you will dig up some old posts concerning wizards.

What I say is, it is hard to catch with melee Dps and we are:
*Oom after 4min30 on a boss
*Unable to burst on trash because of being oom for the boss behind the trash and loosing 1 gather if we do before we engage the trash.

Healers do not face mana issue and can last for a long fight with 1 gather, wizards do. (Even my box cleric 15K mana was chain healing on Dust avatar with only 1 gathering (15K silver chain) for the whole fight and it lasted for long as we were few dps).

Once again, I will be patient and will look forward to see parses from melees and other casters and feedback from the last revamp. But whatever those parses bring up, I will still face mana issue when I want to keep High DPS (Wizards are a Dps class, aren't they?), that's why I created a wizard as main in my crew.

Taladome
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Re: Wizard problems

Post#29 » Tue May 11, 2010 8:17 am

Posted my resolution to wiz dps and mana under class balance, but something I remember from live that helped alot was being able to mount my drog, many zones here you are unable to mount, that constant medding really helps a ton.

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Valsavis
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Re: Wizard problems

Post#30 » Tue May 11, 2010 10:35 am

Totally agree on the mount thing.... I have been riding my horse in PoFire while kiting hehe. Helps tons.

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