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Word of the Alchemist spell stack

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 1:27 pm
by Soapy
Word of the Alchemis from Spiritstaff of the Alchemist does not stack with my overhaste (specifically, im using "Ancient Power" from envenomed moccasins).

Nor the champion type line for that matter, but that doesnt supprise me.

Re: Word of the Alchemist spell stack

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 5:26 pm
by Tristhan
Soapy wrote:Word of the Alchemis from Spiritstaff of the Alchemist does not stack with my overhaste (specifically, im using "Ancient Power" from envenomed moccasins).

Nor the champion type line for that matter, but that doesnt supprise me.


Also will Word of the Alchemist vanish/fade from BoTs when zoning (same with regenbuffs).

Re: Word of the Alchemist spell stack

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:25 am
by Grey
Word of the Alchemist:
3 : Effect type : Increase ATK by 150
5 : Effect type : Increase AGI by 150
6 : Effect type : Increase STR by 150
7 : Effect type : Increase DEX by 150
8 : Effect type : Increase AC by 150
10 : Effect type : Increase Hitpoints by 1500

Ancient Power:
1 : Effect type : Increase Haste v3 by 10%
10 : Effect type : Increase Hitpoints by 10


No idea why you have this issue, as I do not run a shm I can not test it.
However I have not seen this issue in the past so its got to be new(ish).

Q1: Do you not see the buff on your character at all?
Q2: Have you used #mystats prior to clicking the epic and then after clicking epic and compared ac?
Q3: Does it give you the this spell would not take hold on your target message when you click the epic?
Q4: Have you tried to cancel the song/overhaste buff from clicky then used the clicky shm, then reapplied the overhaste?
If so did it overwrite the shm clicky or not take effect?

Re: Word of the Alchemist spell stack

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:50 pm
by antihero
it has actually been this way for as long as i can remember. It would be nice to have Alchemist and the overhaste buff though.

Re: Word of the Alchemist spell stack

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:37 pm
by Lola
Easy fix removing hp from v3 haste item(s)

ps:Shamy champion's line spell should also meet this issue, it is not only donor spell conflict

Re: Word of the Alchemist spell stack

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 4:08 pm
by Grey
Champion:
3 : Effect type : Increase ATK by 140
4 : Effect type : Increase All Skills Damage Modifier by 10%
5 : Effect type : Increase AGI by 140
6 : Effect type : Increase STR by 140
7 : Effect type : Increase DEX by 140

- Notice how all the stats are lower then shm click. Only thing champion has that clicky doesnt is highlighted yellow and you can get that effect from other buffs that do stack.
Lola wrote:Easy fix removing hp from v3 haste item(s)

ps:Shamy champion's line spell should also meet this issue, it is not only donor spell conflict


I feel the same. I already have other regen type buffs and dont need it on the V3 haste clicks.

Re: Word of the Alchemist spell stack

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 4:19 pm
by Lola
I was more referring to champion's perseverance (custom shamy from class balance):

Spell Effects
1 : Effect type : Increase Hitpoints by 120
3 : Effect type : Increase ATK by 140
4 : Effect type : Increase All Skills Damage Modifier by 10%
5 : Effect type : Increase AGI by 140
6 : Effect type : Increase STR by 140
7 : Effect type : Increase DEX by 140

Also mentions the 120 hp regen / tic which prevents donor clic & champ. Perseverance to stack.

@Grey: why did not you add a shamy to your crew?

Re: Word of the Alchemist spell stack

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 7:28 pm
by Grey
Actually that spell shouldnt block doner since clicky has better stats AND the hp regen is different slots.
So what should happen is you cast that on your group, then use doner click and it should overwrite the spell.

You are saying that spell blocks the click?

Edit: Im about to have to add a shm or something else that can heal to my box set.

Re: Word of the Alchemist spell stack

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 12:10 am
by Lola
Donor clic buff overwrites the champ. perseverance.
But even without Donor, V3 haste items clicky buff can be blocked by regular spells. (I mean priority is different as every single shaman has spell but not always donor. Just a way not to to say: it is donor issue :))

Btw:
V3 issue : add a bard
always: add a shamy :)