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Donor Aura + Solo/Raid Aura with 1 Char
Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:11 am
by Simonus
Can anyone please explain to me why Donor Aura and Solo/Raid Aura don't stack on one char and why you can have only one up at any one time? What is the sense of the donor Aura then? There are people on this server that don't play 10 chars and as a wizard, the raid Aura is a MUST due to the chromatic 3500 dmg nuke. Can't you just change the Donor Aura to a Donor clickable buff so people can have the Raid Aura as well?
Re: Donor Aura + Solo/Raid Aura with 1 Char
Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:06 am
by Tristhan
Simonus wrote:Can anyone please explain to me why Donor Aura and Solo/Raid Aura don't stack on one char and why you can have only one up at any one time? What is the sense of the donor Aura then? There are people on this server that don't play 10 chars and as a wizard, the raid Aura is a MUST due to the chromatic 3500 dmg nuke. Can't you just change the Donor Aura to a Donor clickable buff so people can have the Raid Aura as well?
Donation aura is definitive the best aura (GMs made them even better two months ago).
Donation aura works like all other donation item: You get the best/very powerful item for one slot.
If donation aura would stack with every other aura you would gain one additional "slot" any nondonator cannot fill up.
Hey stay close to me and you get at least two AOE Raidaurabuffs
And if you are nice you may join my group for another 5 aurabuffs

Re: Donor Aura + Solo/Raid Aura with 1 Char
Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:14 am
by Maneteth
All auras works the same way. Only 1 aura per char, and best one will work
Re: Donor Aura + Solo/Raid Aura with 1 Char
Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:19 am
by Tristhan
Maneteth wrote:All auras works the same way. Only 1 aura per char, and best one will work
You can choose the aura which should be active at the npc in vale.
You can switch between Donationaura/raid/solo (as long as you have them).
Re: Donor Aura + Solo/Raid Aura with 1 Char
Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:26 am
by Simonus
The main problem is that the donation aura sadly isn't the most powerful item for that slot (for casters anyways) even though I was expecting it to be. Since the 10% damage portion only works for melee dmg and the chromatic damage which is essential for wizards is missing the donator aura only comes in second to the caster raid aura. Add the 8% more spelldmg of the raid aura this gap even gets bigger. I didn't do the number crunching but I would expect 8% spelldmg + 3500 chromatic damage every nuke to be > 10% chance to twincast which is the only effect on the donor aura casters profit from. I mean seriously I already told Lillu, I am not angry because I donated, I am just angry that these things aren't properly stated at the donor site. I would have donated for another gift instead of that aura if I knew I would make my char weaker with it. As Tristhan stated the donor items should be the most powerful items ingame and this just doesn't apply to the donor aura at least for casters.
Re: Donor Aura + Solo/Raid Aura with 1 Char
Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:45 am
by Tristhan
Simonus wrote:The main problem is that the donation aura sadly isn't the most powerful item for that slot (for casters anyways) even though I was expecting it to be. Since the 10% damage portion only works for melee dmg and the chromatic damage which is essential for wizards is missing the donator aura only comes in second to the caster raid aura. Add the 8% more spelldmg of the raid aura this gap even gets bigger. I didn't do the number crunching but I would expect 8% spelldmg + 3500 chromatic damage every nuke to be > 10% chance to twincast which is the only effect on the donor aura casters profit from. I mean seriously I already told Lillu, I am not angry because I donated, I am just angry that these things aren't properly stated at the donor site. I would have donated for another gift instead of that aura if I knew I would make my char weaker with it. As Tristhan stated the donor items should be the most powerful items ingame and this just doesn't apply to the donor aura at least for casters.
Donation aura is the best aura for caster (i use it on my wizard):
the 10% twincast > Aura of the Bloodmage (350 dd -> 3500 dd with buffs/damagemodi maybe).
Maybe the aura is not as powerful for one single caster, but the i love the aura for my group (every toon, every class benefits from that aura).
Of course would be great if the 12 : Effect type : Increase Damage Modifier: All Skills by 10% counts for spells too
Re: Donor Aura + Solo/Raid Aura with 1 Char
Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:53 am
by Simonus
Tristhan wrote:Simonus wrote:The main problem is that the donation aura sadly isn't the most powerful item for that slot (for casters anyways) even though I was expecting it to be. Since the 10% damage portion only works for melee dmg and the chromatic damage which is essential for wizards is missing the donator aura only comes in second to the caster raid aura. Add the 8% more spelldmg of the raid aura this gap even gets bigger. I didn't do the number crunching but I would expect 8% spelldmg + 3500 chromatic damage every nuke to be > 10% chance to twincast which is the only effect on the donor aura casters profit from. I mean seriously I already told Lillu, I am not angry because I donated, I am just angry that these things aren't properly stated at the donor site. I would have donated for another gift instead of that aura if I knew I would make my char weaker with it. As Tristhan stated the donor items should be the most powerful items ingame and this just doesn't apply to the donor aura at least for casters.
Donation aura is the best aura for caster (i use it on my wizard):
the 10% twincast > Aura of the Bloodmage (350 dd -> 3500 dd with buffs/damagemodi maybe).
Maybe the aura is not as powerful for one single caster, but the i love the aura for my group (every toon, every class benefits from that aura).
Of course would be great if the 12 : Effect type : Increase Damage Modifier: All Skills by 10% counts for spells too
But it is NOT 350dd its 3500dd which is like 40000 with damage mods on EVERY cast instead of maybe 100000 on every 10th cast. Tell me how this is better? And then again add the 8% more damage of the raid aura the donor aura is missing. I never said it wasn't a worthy aura, it's just that it's catered for melee....
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Re: Donor Aura + Solo/Raid Aura with 1 Char
Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:04 pm
by Tristhan
Hm it seems i used wrong source:
Aura of the Bloodmage
(Group Based)
+5% Spell Damage
+5% Dot Critical Chance
+1300 Mana
+Spell Proc: Bloodmage Strike: 350DD Nuke
I will make some parses with the wiz to get an better feeling for the Bloodmage dps comparing to donationaura.
Re: Donor Aura + Solo/Raid Aura with 1 Char
Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:34 pm
by Simonus
Since solo aura is already 700 dd why should the raid aura be 350 =)
And I would bet that the raid aura parse willcome out way ahead of donor aura just because rng isn't a factor there instead of the 10% twin cast chance.
Re: Donor Aura + Solo/Raid Aura with 1 Char
Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:00 pm
by Stickybuds
well you can't twin cast any instant nukes or clickies while the solo/raid aura in question will proc the mana flare type nuke off majority of nukes and clickies including the instant casts.
Interested to see the parse.