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URGENT - Cleric Bot Bugged

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:54 am
by Rerfu
Cleric Bots are now only healing their owns after the current Rev. This is a game breaking bug for raid attempts. Easily testable, summon a cleric bot and group with someone, the cleric bot will only heal you.

Re: URGENT - Cleric Bot Bugged

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:12 am
by striat
Bots really shouldn't be a game breaking issue imo, but will adjust AI with some of the other things.

Re: URGENT - Cleric Bot Bugged

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:15 am
by Rerfu
Its not game breaking for normal game play just annoying, but unless your guild can run 4 or 5 clerics you need the cleric bots extra healing for rampage damage on dps melee. Thank you for looking into this I know you guys work hard on the behind the scenes code.

Also the shaman bots are not casting buffs at all.

Re: URGENT - Cleric Bot Bugged

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:27 am
by striat
Rerfu wrote:Its not game breaking for normal game play just annoying, but unless your guild can run 4 or 5 clerics you need the cleric bots extra healing for rampage damage on dps melee. Thank you for looking into this I know you guys work hard on the behind the scenes code.

Also the shaman bots are not casting buffs at all.


Wanted to clarify as well, my comment was intended to mean that if bots are game breaking for the content here, my personal opinion is that is a problem. The idea that bots are necessary is not where I hoped things would go. Much of it has happened due to recent code changes though, so hopefully we can get it under control in the future.

Re: URGENT - Cleric Bot Bugged

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:31 am
by Rerfu
Its a simple question of numbers really, of course I'd prefer to have 5 or 6 live person clerics. But in reality, all we have at the moment is 1 live cleric and 1 boxed cleric, working on another boxed cleric at the moment.

We are all geared as far as we can go within reason, yet without more healers we cannot kill the entry level raid content, so we have to fill with cleric bots. That and I need to learn to shaman better and land a slow on the raid mob.

Re: URGENT - Cleric Bot Bugged

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:25 am
by Koeril
Rerfu wrote:Its a simple question of numbers really, of course I'd prefer to have 5 or 6 live person clerics. But in reality, all we have at the moment is 1 live cleric and 1 boxed cleric, working on another boxed cleric at the moment.

We are all geared as far as we can go within reason, yet without more healers we cannot kill the entry level raid content, so we have to fill with cleric bots. That and I need to learn to shaman better and land a slow on the raid mob.


If the entire reason is numbers as you say, then content should be tuned down. However, if that was the case, then both Progeny and Evolution should not be where they are. Our numbers fluctuate a lot, but even with our current small raid force of about 2 groups, we can kill Sleeper and I believe we can do Fennin (but no one wants to try and wipe - I don't mind wiping!).

Sounds possibly that maybe you must exercise patience and wait for more to join rather than trying to tackle something that is too difficult for you. I've not seen you recruiting either.

Personally, after being on this server for 6 months or so, I've seen the large amount of problems that bots cause. I'm more of an extremist and think bots should be ditched altogether. Yeah, of course it's nice that I can have instant-cures and patch heals or an extra 1000 DPS, but the cost is high and people can raid without them. I guarantee you anything that you can do with your bots, you can do without (except maybe handle AE cures, that could be kinda rough without bots).

Re: URGENT - Cleric Bot Bugged

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:28 am
by Koeril
After a brief test, my bot healed fine.

Test:
Grouped Jerant (group lead) and Hans
Popped bot (Jerant's) and he started his buff routine
Immediately got aggro on Hans
Bot still buffing
Bot finished buff routine
Bot cast hot on Hans
Bot cast CH on Hans

Striat is still testing, but that was my finding.

Re: URGENT - Cleric Bot Bugged

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:36 am
by Lola
Same here with Loly (wiz) + Infirmiere (Loly's Bot) and Galdwin (bard)

Healing is fine for the bot's owner and the bard - tested with bot summoned in zone and outside zone + zoning.

Re: URGENT - Cleric Bot Bugged

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:37 am
by striat
Also, could not repeat this. Tested over a dozen times, zoning back and forth. Even had other test and no reproduction.

Re: URGENT - Cleric Bot Bugged

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:51 am
by Rerfu
It might have been a one time thing, we had people zoning in and out and joining. But basically at that time the bot would only heal Rawrs, and Bumsock and Nigrog both sat around 50% to 40% health and the bot never casted anything on them. It could have been we were moving around so fast that the bot was interrupting its heals to them. I do not have show spell effect leadership pts on Rawrs.

The bot was not keeping up well, it did not have runspeed buffed. Now that I think about it we were probably out ranging all the heals. The bot was only healing Rawrs but now it looks like a user error, so sorry.

Issue was user error, thread can be closed or deleted.