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Bot upgrades

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:40 pm
by goodthink
OK I have seen you guys are planning on limiting the bots created on and account to a specific character.

As it is now, only the character who gives the bot items is allowed to take them back, and in addition to this, any item with a req lvl on it makes the bot unable to fight lower level content.

The problem I have with limiting bots in this way is that we cannot upgrade the bots we have because the armour drops are all chaotic quests and you only get the same type as the owner.

This means, effectively, my shaman is limited to chain classes which doesn't give me many options for tanking. I have the pick of rogue, beserker and ranger. None of which excell at tanking even with shm buffs. Better than just dogdog, sure. But why be so limiting?

I would like to use a monk now and then and possibly a warrior. Can't happen unless I am still allowed to use my bstlord to trade in rusty and hand it to my monk. Is this an exploit? Sure, if you intention is to have bots be completely useless and never tank.

Now I can see all the tanks out there using clerics or shm bots being ok. You only need the buffs and heals.

If you do link the bots to a specific character can you at least allow us to request specific returns from the quest giver? That way my shm can still give my monk bot leather pieces and my paladin or warrior some plate instead of having to level up toons to far mrusty with so my bots stay current.

Re: Bot upgrades

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:45 am
by striat
goodthink wrote:OK I have seen you guys are planning on limiting the bots created on and account to a specific character.


I'm unaware that this was a plan. Yes,it was be very easy, but I don't know of such a plan.



goodthink wrote:As it is now, only the character who gives the bot items is allowed to take them back, and in addition to this, any item with a req lvl on it makes the bot unable to fight lower level content.

The problem I have with limiting bots in this way is that we cannot upgrade the bots we have because the armour drops are all chaotic quests and you only get the same type as the owner.


I'm working on upgrading chaotic quest so you can equip your bot. The items are only able to be taken back by the owner because of a the ability to exploit the trading of no drops, which I still think is better than the alternative "fix".

On the weapons, bots get the invulnerable message because they are trying to attack with a wep they cannot use. I'll patch this to use their fists instead of trying to use a wep with a required level higher than theirs. Also note that they should receive no benefit from armor with a required level higher than the bots actual level.



goodthink wrote:This means, effectively, my shaman is limited to chain classes which doesn't give me many options for tanking. I have the pick of rogue, beserker and ranger. None of which excell at tanking even with shm buffs. Better than just dogdog, sure. But why be so limiting?

I would like to use a monk now and then and possibly a warrior. Can't happen unless I am still allowed to use my bstlord to trade in rusty and hand it to my monk. Is this an exploit? Sure, if you intention is to have bots be completely useless and never tank.


Actually, the method you mention is not an exploit. Again, Sheever's quest needs to be adjusted as mentioned.



goodthink wrote:If you do link the bots to a specific character can you at least allow us to request specific returns from the quest giver? That way my shm can still give my monk bot leather pieces and my paladin or warrior some plate instead of having to level up toons to far mrusty with so my bots stay current.


Again, I am unaware of any bot changes to characterid. Perhaps I missed something, but I would be the one to do the editing, so that pile of work would eventually end up on my desk;p

And again, check soon for Sheever's changes