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Should you start a boss fight with cancel magic?
Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:23 am
by Ditri
I'm just wondering... I never do this. But back when I played over a decade ago it was pretty common to dispell before casters started to load up debuffs and whatnot.
Is it good practice here or futile/negligible?
Re: Should you start a boss fight with cancel magic?
Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:34 pm
by Sian
I don't remember any fights here that required cancel magic before engaging. Debuffing before engaging is perfect as long as mob is rooted

If not rooted, well, has to come just after engaging

Debuff is really a must do and will often decide the success or not of your fight. Chanter, druid and shaman (and mage/necro a little too) are great.
Re: Should you start a boss fight with cancel magic?
Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:55 pm
by Ditri
Sian wrote:I don't remember any fights here that required cancel magic before engaging. Debuffing before engaging is perfect as long as mob is rooted

If not rooted, well, has to come just after engaging

Debuff is really a must do and will often decide the success or not of your fight. Chanter, druid and shaman (and mage/necro a little too) are great.
Wow i didnt think about that. You can debuff rooted mobs before u engage? (like Vulak for example?)
FWIW, I currently use an ENC to tash, cripple, slow (seems everything is immune), and a mage to malo. I have a shaman, but she doesnt seem to have anything good since the ENC has rk i cripple and the MAG has rk i malosoin.
Finally, aside from the druid epic click, what debuff do they do?
Re: Should you start a boss fight with cancel magic?
Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:03 pm
by cbarrett
Ditri wrote:You can debuff rooted mobs before u engage? (like Vulak for example?)
Sort of. He wont summon you if you cast cancel magic type spells, but he'll start aoe'ing like mad.
Re: Should you start a boss fight with cancel magic?
Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:14 pm
by Sian
He will start aggroing your toons when you start debuffing but at least, your tank will be able to engage a slow/debuffed mob, which is good. But indeed, if mob AEs, he will start AEing.
Shaman has slow aswel that can land much better than chanter's.
Re: Should you start a boss fight with cancel magic?
Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:35 pm
by Rude
Yup. If mob is rooted, and you have the healers to counteract the AE (usually a not-so-difficult task, depending on the mob) it's always best to enchanter/shaman debuff the boss before engaging.
Re: Should you start a boss fight with cancel magic?
Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:20 pm
by Grey
No idea if its a good idea to dispell first, probably would be good for some fights but really I just dispell anything that has a damage shield so I don't have to see the spam in combat.
Re: Should you start a boss fight with cancel magic?
Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:31 pm
by Rude
Grey wrote:No idea if its a good idea to dispell first, probably would be good for some fights but really I just dispell anything that has a damage shield so I don't have to see the spam in combat.
^--- What grey said

Dispell is usually just a novelty debuff to get rid of DS spam. Though there *may* be 1 or 2 encounters where mobs start off with some hefty buffs, I've just never noticed them

Would be a mildly interesting addition to future content though...