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which one has better melee dps out put? warrior or zerker.

zerkers, warriors arent a dps class, tho they do the best DPS of the tank classes - zerkers should and will out dps warriors anyday.

Zerkers should most definitely beat warriors in DPS but it depends on gear.

I haven't played a Zerker but I have found Warrior DPS to be rewarding, especially since I prefer to use 2h weapons....

Zerkers have Damage modifiers, Warriors have AC.

If you want to entertain yourself then grab a high damage 2her as a warrior, get below 30% hp, pop a damage disc and watch the 8k crippling blows fly. (Tier1 warrior with Axe of the Orcslayer, non-sustainable dps)

If you can keep yourself at low HP without dying then AAXP goes by alot faster... and its pretty fun (Works with both classes).

First parse, first half-ass attempt. Maybe i'll do it again because it freakin' amuses me that T1 warrior with LDON/crit AAs can produce these (Very) short term dps numbers.


Vlad on 06/23/11 in 94sec

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--- DMG: 685262 (100%) @ 7290 dps (7290 sdps)

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--- DMG: 685262 (100%) @ 7290 dps (7290 sdps)

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So, the mathcrafter in me is going to rear its ugly head without solid proof to back it, BUT, last time I parsed, and the general nature of the way EQ crunches attack numbers, a dual wielding class will always (ALWAYS!) out dps a 2h wielding class given that their gear is absolutely equivilent. This is base dmg, before aa's and other item effects. So, the neat thing about playing on emu (and especially on THF), is that there is custom gear that live normally wouldn't represent. Starting as early as Chaotic armor you get items that differ in nature, representing the dmg vs survivability aspect of the class roles. The warrior's base dmg, with the same atk score and equivilent weapons, will out dmg the BER. Once the warrior picks up the aa that raises the offhand dmg, this imaginary gap widens. However, with the onset of more aa's the BER quickly closes the gap with their class specific aa's as the warrior's focuses more on defense and crit, as opposed to damage and crit. This is the pint where gear starts making a big difference. Unfortunately a 2h weapon hits a point in item progression to where they need a monstrous base damage OR bonus damage to keep up with two 1hers when aa's are involved. This stems from the nasty fact that 1hers get aa's that up their (missing) bonus damage, as well as add more double attack / extra attacks, wheras Sony in their infinite wisdom thought it would be best to just keep stacking double attack / extra attack aa's for 2h users. This is all well and good since it ups your average dps, but 2hers are punished much more for missing due to delay and essentially half as many attacks (even after multiple attack aa's.) Where the extra damage actually comes from is the special attack (frenzy vs kick lol!), which scales off of your gear. So in the end, BER make up for their inherent 2h disadvantage by bringing disciplines, aa's, and dmg clickies to the table to froth at the mouth and be rather unpleasant (Warning, point away from group!) Warriors counteract with survivability in their own category.

TL;DR: Warriors are safer autoattack dps due to beefiness and 1h advantages, but lack the punch of a BER in supersaiyan mode. Cycling through disciplines and dmg clickies will make all the difference.

ok what bout zerker and monk?

Actually , this question is kinda wierd.

Warrior are Plate armor wearing Tanks , they are here to take hits and thats all.
Zerker are Chain armor DPS, they are here to die on enrage and deal dmg.

You can't really compare them since they are so different afterall, exept for the Berzerker mode when you are low hp.


Now , if you are looking for a dps class , monks are pretty good dps once well geared.
For melee dps , I think actually it's #1 rogue #2 monks #3 rangers #4 berserker.

but keep in mind that rangers dps will go down on rooted mobs and berzerker can deal some elite dmg for little time duration with their abilities/disciplines.

ok thanks for the help all i appreciate it

rogue dps outshines most in my opinion and from what ive seen. I couldnt believe some of the DPS that toons like Volgar and Todd couldput out. Zerker dps is nice though and has improved.

Remember, Warrior will be less maintenance than a zerker as it will survive longer and give you more options when it comes to fights i.e an extra defensive discipline. Their dps is nice also, dont think its low by any means its still quite respectable.