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Bard Song + Epic 2.0
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:10 pm
by normalb
I don't think this is a stacking issue that would warrant the feedback/error page so I thought I would start here. I recently created, leveled, and am gearing a bard. I was playing with the songs and the epic 2.0 and it appeared Ancient: Call of Power did not stack with 2.0. I was wondering if this was intended and if so, what are some other common songs/melodies that boxers like to use for simplicity? I was trying to maximize DPS, particularly from my wizard. For further DPS considerations, the group has wiz/rng/war/bard/shm and rog bot.
Thanks in advance for any input.
Edit - Or maybe I have incorrectly identified the stacking issue but definitely is not taking hold on my current buff/song set up. Again, any feedback is appreciated.
Re: Bard Song + Epic 2.0
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:10 am
by Beatboxin
Ill check them stacking when I get back on I as a bard never really used that song for once you get to lvl 70 that songs first upgrade is Orc Slayer (an ldon song you purchase in vale) I know for a fact our epic 2.0 stacks with Orc Slayer. (Orc Slayer is 40% over haste and added spell damage)
As for what to melody I play manna orc slayer sello for once you get to many solo/raid auras going in group they take your song slots and get spammed "the spell did not take hold" but for now those songs plus War Song for attk , Storm Blade for added procs (until you get ToV quest legs clicky with this song) also when your doing a name or long battle through Harmony of Sound as your 4th song in loop and you will lower resists on mob for nukes/procs.
Hope that was a little helpful any other questions feel free to ask

Re: Bard Song + Epic 2.0
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:24 am
by normalb
This was helpful. The issue I was running into was too many effects in the songs window.
Re: Bard Song + Epic 2.0
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:11 am
by Thenrin
Are we still limited to 6 effects in song window? With auras eating up song slots, bards are kinda hurting
Re: Bard Song + Epic 2.0
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:21 am
by Felibar
Pretty sure there are AAs they added to boost the song and buff slots to help alleviate the addiction us DPS have for buffs and songs.
Re: Bard Song + Epic 2.0
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:29 am
by Thenrin
For buffs, yes, we can have up to 24 buffs - but unless I am mistaken, that does nothing for song slots, which are in a different window entirely.
Re: Bard Song + Epic 2.0
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:41 am
by Beatboxin
Yes both sets both sets of buff AA upgrades (to get more buff slots) for what I have seen allows more songs+auras up. Though when you rock 6 to 8 solo/raid auras and melody 4 songs that's 10 slots and most in game don't have the 400 AA into the last part up upgrades and if you add ToV clicky makes 11 if at a raid and someone else is doing manna could be 12 things up and that is with none of the 6 2.0's that would be in group to use

so no matter what we never get to fully max out the possibility's but to be honest I'm not a 100% on how many active slots you can have in song window (options are almost endless hehe) but I'm getting on now to check and will report

Re: Bard Song + Epic 2.0
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:58 am
by Thenrin
Beatboxer, you da man! If anyone will know, it's a main bard
So figuring a base 6 song slots, plus 5 from first AA, then 4 more from the chaotic 100 AA, we have potentially 15 song slots?
Been holding back on workin my bard partly because of this; got him to 70, but that's the easy part.
Re: Bard Song + Epic 2.0
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:46 am
by Lumpa
I can confirm that the you can have 5 song buffs on you pre aa, and 11 after the first round of aa's. 15 looks like the maximum amount of currently available song buff slots for a max aa character.
A bard tip:
To play your songs on melody without missing a note you only need maxed instrument skills and 2/5 in the internal metronome aa. To train your singing skills up, just sing a single song(don't use melody). You will never miss a note on that song and will still get skill ups.
Re: Bard Song + Epic 2.0
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:53 pm
by Stickybuds
my druid does have all maxed AAs including the 100point 4 extra buff slots. When i have auras and songs going, when there is a short duration buff that would normally go in the song window, but it wont fit, it overflows into my regular buff window. There have been lots of times i had the bard epic buff in my regular buff window.
Sooooo...Grind the AAs, get your buff slots maxed! You need them! With them maxed i havent noticed ever missing out on a buff or short duration buff.
As for others, ya, i see that effect wont take hold many times b/c they dont have max buff slots finished.
Grind those AAs!