The Hidden Forest

Player parsed: Ocon
http://www.thehiddenforest.org/magelo/c ... ?char=ocon

Buffs: all self buffs applicable to both melee and archery and full shaman buffs for both parses

This is to basically show that archery dps is complete ass atm, basically due to how low the min. damage is, and the huge range in hit damage.

Melee - Cazic Thule Dummy in 303sec, for 1186482HP and your 3916dps at 5/12/2010 7:44:48 AM

Archery - Cazic Thule Dummy in 313sec, for 415332HP and your 1327dps at 5/12/2010 7:58:35 AM

A breakdown of the archery dps:

/tell Ocon Ocon -vs- Cazic Thule Dummy: -- DMG: 415332 -- DPS: 1327 -- Scaled: 1327 -- Hit: 415332 -- Non-crit rate: 100% -- Attempts: 373 -- Hits: 373 -- Accuracy: 100% -- Avg Hit: 1113 -- Max hit: 3488 -- DMG to PC: 0

The accuracy isn't right because I have misses turned off, so my client only records hits.

I have no idea if something changed, but I know I recall doing 9k hits with trueshot to Cazic, I realize he's got huge ac, but an air bow with the poair aug that's 14damage and has a lure proc... to be doing *that* kind of dps... is hugely disappointing, especially with upping caster dps, rangers were always excellent to have around for their ranged dps, because they were basically just afk dps machines.

I'd like to see the staff look at the damage scales, I don't know if something got changed or if a recent update changed how archery works, but something is definitely off, the following is trueshot parsed on CT.

Cazic Thule Dummy in 211sec, for 363524HP and your 1723dps at 5/12/2010 8:08:11 AM
/tell Ocon Ocon -vs- Cazic Thule Dummy: -- DMG: 363524 -- DPS: 1723 -- Scaled: 1723 -- Hit: 363524 -- Non-crit rate: 100% -- Attempts: 259 -- Hits: 259 -- Accuracy: 100% -- Avg Hit: 1403 -- Max hit: 3988 -- DMG to PC: 0

My max hit went from 3488 to 3988 with trueshot on.

Ideally, a ranger with air bow and the poair aug (14dmg lure proc one ) should be somewhere between 5-6k, with trueshot throwing them to 7k-8k. ( at least that's where I'd put them on the dps charts, with the kind of gear ocon has ). If I had a bard in the group and disc'd out, my melee would probably have been 6k or so, which isn't bad, but if rangers are restricted to their melee they're basically a paper warrior.

More than welcome to hear other people's comments / concerns with melee vs archery.

Thanks - the answer is that the mob is rooted and rangers suck at damage against rooted mobs because they didn't get damage bonus or something? Someone clue us in.

Melee damage - is that including all self procs+ Panther? If anything, thats too high (monk did 3k base, this ranger did 4k).

Be tough to get a good parse, probably need to get some real world parses.

I am very interested in how this turns out as I am about to start picking my AAs. I would much rather know before-hand if I need to focus on melee rather than archery. It won't matter later on as I will pick all of it up but it will make a big difference at the start.

Back in live, our raiding guild would turn down applicants who kept mentioning that they have high melee dps.

I changed runspeed from Vlar and Cazic to 0.1, means no longer rooted. Please try some shots at those mobs again.

yes as you can read from my first post, he had all shaman buffs, including panther, godly conversion 3, and shaman epic 2.

Indeed bow shots can do double damage (happens all the time at 70 iirc) unless the target is rooted

I think Tyler nailed it, ranger DPS is ass against a rooted mob IIRC. Try it now, it should be a lot different.