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Played "parse my rogue" today and wanted to share some results. All tests were done on Vlar - Edited to match up with Anti's parsing

Magelo: T6/7+ Rogue http://www.thehiddenforest.org/webtools/magelo/character.php?char=Grumblethorpe

Sune T8
Vlar on 4/7/2012 in 122sec

Total
--- DMG: 516200 (100%) @ 4231 dps (4231 sdps)

Grumblethorpe
--- DMG: 516200 (100%) @ 4231 dps (4231 sdps)
------ Total: 516200 -- Pierce: 209372 -- Backstab: 204479 -- Hit: 102349

Sune T8, Donor 1.0
Vlar on 4/7/2012 in 122sec

Total
--- DMG: 555542 (100%) @ 4554 dps (4554 sdps)

Grumblethorpe
--- DMG: 555542 (100%) @ 4554 dps (4554 sdps)
------ Total: 555542 -- Pierce: 207112 -- Backstab: 188215 -- Hit: 160215

Sune T8, Donor 2.0
Vlar on 4/7/2012 in 123sec

Total
--- DMG: 610385 (100%) @ 4962 dps (4962 sdps)

Grumblethorpe
--- DMG: 610385 (100%) @ 4962 dps (4962 sdps)
------ Total: 610385 -- Pierce: 267322 -- Backstab: 226127 -- Hit: 116936

Sune T8, Donor Legs
Vlar on 4/7/2012 in 123sec

Total
--- DMG: 875820 (100%) @ 7120 dps (7120 sdps)

Grumblethorpe
--- DMG: 875820 (100%) @ 7120 dps (7120 sdps)
------ Total: 875820 -- Hit: 389035 -- Pierce: 293037 -- Backstab: 193748

Sune T8, Donor 2.0, Donor Legs
Vlar on 4/7/2012 in 121sec

Total
--- DMG: 1101289 (100%) @ 9102 dps (9102 sdps)

Grumblethorpe
--- DMG: 1101289 (100%) @ 9102 dps (9102 sdps)
------ Total: 1101289 -- Hit: 374488 -- Backstab: 368694 -- Pierce: 358107

Sune T8, Epic 1.5, Donor 2.0, Donor Legs
Vlar on 4/7/2012 in 122sec

Total
--- DMG: 1378336 (100%) @ 11298 dps (11298 sdps)

Grumblethorpe
--- DMG: 1378336 (100%) @ 11298 dps (11298 sdps)
------ Total: 1378336 -- Hit: 634925 -- Pierce: 373225 -- Backstab: 370186

Sune T8, Epic 1.5, Donor 2.0, Donor Legs, Night Fury Rk. I
Vlar on 4/7/2012 in 123sec

Total
--- DMG: 1842668 (100%) @ 14981 dps (14981 sdps)

Grumblethorpe
--- DMG: 1842668 (100%) @ 14981 dps (14981 sdps)
------ Total: 1842668 -- Backstab: 880392 -- Hit: 616044 -- Pierce: 346232

/fitzor

The 25-30k dps that they are talking about with the T8 pets is not a sustained Dps. They are able to obtain those numbers for only a short amount of time and most of the clickes used are long recast (6-10 minutes) with short durations (30s-2:30).

A normal T8 pet pulls around 6k dps with no buffs and about 10-11k dps with donor and a few extra buffs.

Thanks for the clarification, Vaion. Appreciate it!

Hopefully these parses will help give greater detail as to why some classes are much preferred in terms of others for dps. I love my rogue to death and it should be obvious with the investment involved. My issue and I'm sure this carries weight with other folks as well is that there really is no option to consider using a character like this when I could (for example) make another wizard and do literally 3-4x the dps with none of the risk (like rampages, proximity aggro, etc.)

/fitzor

We don't need to have our DPS adjusted the soltion is simple. Remove the magic item tag from red marbles so we can make use of that pick pocket skill we have.

KEEP IN MIND, NONE OF THESE TESTS ARE SUSTAINABLE FOR MORE THAN 30 SECONDS...

Previous results (prior to backstab change)

Sune T8, Epic 1.5, Donor 2.0, Donor Legs, Night Fury Rk. I
Vlar on 4/7/2012 in 123sec

Total
--- DMG: 1842668 (100%) @ 14981 dps (14981 sdps)

Grumblethorpe
--- DMG: 1842668 (100%) @ 14981 dps (14981 sdps)
------ Total: 1842668 -- Backstab: 880392 -- Hit: 616044 -- Pierce: 346232

New results (post-backstab change, I've also geared out quite a bit more too..)

Sune T8, Epic 1.5, Donor 2.0, Donor Legs, Night Fury Rk. I
Vlar on 8/12/2012 in 101sec

Total
--- DMG: 3058940 (100%) @ 30287 dps (30287 sdps)

Grumblethorpe
--- DMG: 3058940 (100%) @ 30287 dps (30287 sdps)
------ Total: 3058940 -- Backstab: 1793567 -- Pierce: 765608 -- Hit: 499765

The duration of the test isn't the same; however the change is definitely a positive one for Rogues as a whole. Their burst damage is that likely of monks/berserkers now, which is great!

Just to give you an idea of what is possible for a fully debuffed mob (very low AC) and MAX buffs:


Vlad on 8/12/2012 in 187sec

Total
--- DMG: 16007526 (100%) @ 85602 dps (85602 sdps)

Grumblethorpe
--- DMG: 16007526 (100%) @ 85602 dps (85602 sdps)
------ Total: 16007526 -- Hit: 9484937 -- Pierce: 3376493 -- Backstab: 3146096

I believe monks and zerkers can hit 100k DPS in this state, but this is a vast improvement. Caster's still blow these numbers away by a multitude, but the gap is closing slightly. Love the change.

/fitz