Bards & Puretone disc line

[Stickybuds]

Hey guys. I know I have talked to some of yall about this before but I was hoping to get an update are the bard's puretone disc line. Wanted to make a new post rather than necro an old thread but here is a link to an old one where near the bottom striat gives an idea of what may be causing it not to work. viewtopic.php?f=13&t=4681&hilit=puretone

Links to the spells
webtools/spell.php?id=4586
webtools/spell.php?id=9503
webtools/spell.php?id=9504
webtools/spell.php?id=9505

Now even if this disc was working it is my understanding that this would only boost dmg/dot type spells for the bard, and have no effect on buffs. Since bards primary song use on THF is buffs and utility, and rarely if ever dmg/dots, I would like to entertain the idea of changing this disc line to some other or new custom disc.

Regards,
Sticky

[Vaion]

I'll take a look at Puretone and see what is up with it.


On a side note for bards that are at the Instrument Modifier cap (45%) I just added in an Instrument Modifier Overcap effect that will be introduced in future content (New AA's!!). It will not affect Movement buffs (as to prevent going over the movement threshold and actually getting snared) but it should affect all other spells/songs that are affected by normal Instrument Modifiers.


I'll post here with anything that I find with Puretone/Minstrel's Gift.

[Vaion]

So looking at Puretone and Minstrel's Gift, they are just being limited by the hardcoded cap of the game on normal instrument modifiers (Instrument Modifier v1)

What I did to make it a little easier is I added the same % that it was adding on the Instrument Modifiers v1 to the new Instrument Modifier Overcap (Instrument Modifier v2).

So for instance take Pure Tone:

Old Version:
1 : Effect type : Instrument Modifier +28%

New Version:
1 : Effect type : Instrument Modifier +28%
2 : Effect type : Instrument Modifier v2 +28%


So the new version will increase your v1 modifier by 28% (Caps at 45%) and also add 28% to your overcap. So if you are at the 45% cap and click this Disc, your spells will now have a total modifier of 73% (45% +28%) for the duration of the Disc.

Hope all that makes sense lol

[Noren]

Sounds like a great change, but I'll admit that even with the changes I'll still never use the Puretone/Minstrel's Gift line on account of them sharing a cooldown with Thousand Blades/Perfect Blade discipline.

Any chance they can get different reuse categories or perhaps trigger a (not short duration type! ) buff like the monk/zerker Hands of the Masters line of discs so that bards can boost songs and maintain dps discs at the same time?

Pretty please and thank you

[Vaion]

So was doing some testing with the new overcap and ran into a bit of bad news...

The overcap functions properly as a worn and AA bonus (Haven't tested the AA, but it should function based on what I know). The bad news is that it does not load properly for spell bonuses (buffs/disciplines).

So with that in mind, I will not be able to add the overcap to Puretone/Minstrel's Gift.

I am probably going to leave Puretone as it is, since some players may still use it to reach the 45% cap on Instrument Modifiers v1. However, I am more than glad to rework Minstrel's Gift to be a different Disc ( maybe a dps one....maybe ).

Also, I will separate the discipline timers so that the different lines do not share the same timers anymore.

[Noren]

/cheer Vaion as always

Thanks for looking into it

[Stickybuds]

Thanks for all you do!

[Vaion]

Bard changes incoming with next patch:

o Puretone Discipline is now set to use discipline timer 3.
o Minstrel's Gift is now set to use discipline timer 5.
o Minstrel's Gift is no longer an upgraded version of Puretone. It now offers 2/4/6% chance to land a Crippling Blow on your target. The discipline has a 300 endurance initial cost with a 10 endurance per second cost to maintain it. Minstrel's Gift can be maintained as long as you have the endurance to do so without any recast/refresh time.

[Beatboxin]

I never used puretone myself cause I have Aphrodite's Gauntlets of Desire and it didn't do anything other then lock out my thousand blades/perfect blade as stated..

But the changes to Minstrel's Guard sounds awesome! Thanks Vaion for making it worth something

Question though for how the focus on our fully evolved Bp will now work or what it will do?
Focus of the Wanderer III
For it stating it "Decrease Reuse Timer by 412.00 sec" when I use Perfect Blade it still locks out for the 33:45 its suppose to so I thought it was just for Minstrel's Guard? or is it all disc's?

[Vaion]

Im sure its suppose to be Minstrel's Guard, but ill have to double check to be sure. I forgot to update those spells when I made the disciplines part of the spell ranking system =/ I'll get that fixed for next weeks reboot.