Question to Boxers

[Beatboxin]

The question why SK or War was more aimed towards what does SK would bring to a group/raid utility/buff wise, while i assume War has compare to Knights the Disc advantage.

Really its just there donor 1.0 1500 base regen a tick for group that is effected by bards. I've seen some sk tick like 8k+ off that donor with various buffs/debuffs, other than that Voice of Thule for self or other MT and there good ae tank's that's about it.

Ae agro i wasn't worried cause True command line is more or less the Key spell for Paladins wich is one or maybe even the best AE threat/dmg/heal you could wish for (if it doesn't resist).

Truth though you should also look into Sacred Word Rk. I it's the next upgrade to true command and its elite, well like you said when it lands. I keep it and true command loaded and have signet from T8 makes for great ae hate plus heal chances. Also group heal itself is massive hate

[Nexor]

Really its just there donor 1.0 1500 base regen a tick for group that is effected by bards. I've seen some sk tick like 8k+ off that donor with various buffs/debuffs, other than that Voice of Thule for self or other MT and there good ae tank's that's about it.

ISo not a real option for me than since like mentioned before, when i donor i would donor for my paladin again.


Truth though you should also look into Sacred Word Rk. I it's the next upgrade to true command and its elite, well like you said when it lands. I keep it and true command loaded and have signet from T8 makes for great ae hate plus heal chances. Also group heal itself is massive hate

Well that why i said "True Command line" only bought a few T8 spells so far and for my paladin it was Blessing of the Nameless RK.I since needed to save some Plat for the time when i need get my new chars geared.And "if" it would always land it would be like a God Mode for Paladins which is one of the reasons why PD is compare to CT easy or at least at the time was easier for me on my pal.

[Melkor]

There is a spell immune and a melee immune mob in Nadox, but you don't have to kill them. Other then that, you listed the only current ones.

[Nexor]

Yay got after a bit hassle 18 to run

[jsre]

Which client is that? I can't get lower than 900ish mb of ram per client (eqplaynice is running).
With all models off and a drastically reduced globals file..

I start to have performance issues at 12 chars using 16GB.

Can you post a pic of the clients in process list?

[Nexor]

@jsre Client is UD one, the picture you see is without MQ2 running however to achieve better performance i use MQ2FPS (which probably i could achieve with ISBoxer too),
However the biggest boost i achieved via permanently activating cores see here http://www.thehiddenforest.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=204&t=9195&start=16.

[Noren]

Which client is that? I can't get lower than 900ish mb of ram per client (eqplaynice is running).
With all models off and a drastically reduced globals file..

I start to have performance issues at 12 chars using 16GB.

Can you post a pic of the clients in process list?

I can post my task manager when I get home. I have 8 GB of ram and regularly box 14-16 but don't even max out my ram. I have done 18 on occasion, no problem, so u know you can do it easily with your specs. Each (UF) client generally uses 200-300 ram and it slowly increases over time. No stock figures - I'll write up my settings when I get home tonight.

[Noren]

Here are the settings in eqclient.ini that I use to achieve low ram usage:

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Couple that with MQ2fps and you'll be golden.

[Nexor]

@Noren i assume you have nosound.txt in your folder cause seeing that Sound=TRUE would
mean either its the ini from the main or that you have all boxes with sound?

[Noren]

@Noren i assume you have nosound.txt in your folder cause seeing that Sound=TRUE would
mean either its the ini from the main or that you have all boxes with sound?

That is correct. I use nosound.txt in the everquest root folder.