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Buff Stacking and Spell Gem Loadouts

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 3:07 pm
by Rerfu
Hoping to start a spell loadout / buff stacking discussion.

I'll start with what I use:

70 Ranger
Spell Gems:
1) Tranquility of the Glade
2) Earthen Shackles
3) Earthen Roots
4) Howl of the Predator
5) Cry of Thunder (anti-summon proc line completely broken)
6) Spirit of Eagle or Feral Form (Outdoors / Indoors)
7) Superior Camouflage
8) Eagle Eye (Is this necessary with max archery and AM2 AA?)

70 Cleric (noob warning)
1) Complete Heal
2) Pious Elixir
3) Pious Remedy
4) Conviction
5) Pacification
6) Unswerving Hammer of Retribution
7) Gate
8) Divine Barrier

59 Shaman (still grinding out Plane of Valor)
1) Plague of Insects
2) Kragg's Mending
3) Blank
4) Blank
5) Invisibility
6) Celerity
7) Talisman of Kragg
8) Gate

Most of these spell choices are specific to the fact that I run all 3 of these characters on 1 computer. I also keep a 70 Warrior Bot in the party he does tend to die sometimes though.

Specific Social Macros:
Both the Cleric and Shaman have /follow Ranger for moving my group around.

Shaman has:
/assist Warrior Bot
/assist off
/cast 1 (Slow)
/cast 1 (Slow)
/g Slowing << %T >>!

Cleric has:
/target Warrior Bot
/cast 1 (CHeal)
/cast 1 (CHeal)
/cast 1 (CHeal)
/g CHEAL <<< %T >>>

Both of those are multi line social macros. The cast is listed multiple times because of fizzles.

Plate Greases of the Helpless is another factor for my setup, instant cast Spirit of the Puma (1 min duration) buff that I cast on the Warrior bot as much as possible, and any other melee dps in my group.

I'm curious as to what buffs people run for level 70 small groups, I only ever played to 65 on magician on Live. Cleric has Conviction and Shaman will have the high end talisman soon. Shaman also casts haste and ranger casts group attack buff. Besides those and getting buffs from the town cleric I'm lost as to maximizing Attack stat on the Ranger? Also for max HP / Defense buffs on the Warrior bot?

Another big weakness is I'm completely lost on my cleric for his own buffs? I only played a cleric on live to like level 32, they're definitely more fun in a 3 char setup then by themselves.

Thanks in advance for any help or additions.

Re: Buff Stacking and Spell Gem Loadouts

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:49 pm
by Kamelen
My standard buff setup is:

Cleric:
Conviction - HP
Aura of Devo. - Spellhaste

Enc:
Hastening of Salik - Melee haste/atk
VoQ - mana pool/regen

Shaman:
Talisman of Wunchi - HP/STR/STA-cap incr.
Talisman of Sense - Increase Chance to Avoid Melee by 7%
Talisman of Alacrity - Melee haste (stacks with Salik)
Talisman of Fortitude - Stam-cap incr.
Champion - Atk power cap incr.
Spirit of panter - dmg proc melee
Talisman of might - Str and % increase to specials

Strength of the hunter and Pally's brells dont stack, i always just go with brells since i'm lazy.. :)

Cleric has a selfbuff for mana regen, dosnt stack with shammy HP. Not worth the time imo, but if you really wanna min max than everything helps.

You can also do druid skin and cleric mark/ac buff. But that will eat up buff slots really quick.

Thats all i can think of.

Oh and the beastlord spell spiritual radiance and various resists buffs.

Theres also plenty of clickys out there aswell, mana pool increase, mana regen, dmg shield etc.

Edit:
Divine Intervention aswell (cleric) Will save your tanks many times. The sucess rate can also be increased with talents.

Re: Buff Stacking and Spell Gem Loadouts

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:55 pm
by Tyler
Talisman of Alacrity - Melee haste (stacks with Salik)

That's not true really. While the buffs do stack, the haste component do not. You can save the time to cast this IF you have Salik already.

Re: Buff Stacking and Spell Gem Loadouts

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:20 pm
by sarcon
for my shaman i keep two spell setups

1- balance of discord
2- cripple
3-mending
4-chaotic elixer
5-malos
6-lingering sloth
7-champion
8-chaotic focus

buff setup is
1-balance of discord
2-cripple
3-mending
4-talisman of sense
5-talisman of might
6-talisman of fortitude
7-tribunal (poison/disease resist)
8-chaotic focus

keep in mind my shaman has panther clicky, vallons quickening clicky so those dont go onto my bar ( also if i ever use canni its arb belt or ToV bp)

Re: Buff Stacking and Spell Gem Loadouts

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:38 pm
by Kamelen
Tyler wrote:Talisman of Alacrity - Melee haste (stacks with Salik)

That's not true really. While the buffs do stack, the haste component do not. You can save the time to cast this IF you have Salik already.



Good to know! Does this also including Salik and Swift like the Wind not stacking?

Re: Buff Stacking and Spell Gem Loadouts

Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:17 pm
by striat
Kamelen wrote:
Tyler wrote:Talisman of Alacrity - Melee haste (stacks with Salik)

That's not true really. While the buffs do stack, the haste component do not. You can save the time to cast this IF you have Salik already.



Good to know! Does this also including Salik and Swift like the Wind not stacking?


yeah, it takes the highest haste only from a spell unless it is v2 or v3 (some clickies/bard songs).

Stacking is something that needs quite a bit of work imo! But, it is a mainstream eqemu issue, so I hadn't done anything with it here yet.