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Tantor and the other animals, Melalafen.

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:55 pm
by Jeido
These mobs are all tougher than NTOV named, but drop worse loot!

The augs on Mala are nice, but they're still only 75% drop chance and it is a hella difficult named. It would take two groups easily to drop that mob, don't you think it should be a guarantee that you get atleast 1 loot to drop if you spend the time to run 2 groups+ to the mob? As for the tear, well we're praying it isn't for the 2.0 tbh... The halfling mask in Chardok is 10% drop chance off royals? I've run them at least 6 or 7 times (that's 18 or 21 kills) and still haven't gotten one. It's good that the other dragons which drop it are 1groupable, but with only a 5% drop chance then the epic will be sooooooooooooooooooooooooo rare. I know it should be rare, but that's a little TOO rare I think, especially considering all of the other very difficult parts of the quest itself.

As far as the animal named are concerned, I can say the same thing regarding loot. They have a 75% chance to drop (1) loot which is on par with a WTOV loot, not even NTOV, but they're harder than NToV named (double the HP of Lady M, for example, and hit harder!)

I think that the difficult they were at before was just fine, and the only thing that needed to be changed was the stun immunity flag that Strong Horn had. I may have done Strong Horn with 7 before you changed it, but hey I just did it with 7 again. The only difference is that the fight was much more stressful and took an extra 5 minutes than it did last time. You may think, "hey he does it with 7 what is he complaining about?", but the only reason I'm able to do them with such a low amount of ppl is because evo has farmed NToV for over a month and we're nearly fully ToV geared. I 1 group WToV dragons too sometimes, but that does not mean that when evolution was at progeny's gear level then it was doable.

To summarize, you really should make the dragons easier and/or look into their drops. A chance for a 400 HP loot, key word is chance, is not worth it for the difficulty of the mobs and they will probly end up being ignored due to that. The clicky from the charm is really good from the animals, but i'm assuming it's rarer also so I still think something should be changed.

Re: Tantor and the other animals, Melalafen.

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:59 pm
by sarcon
that or make him a quick intense fight and tune down his hps lol (2,250,000 is about the same as some of the tougher NToV stuff

Re: Tantor and the other animals, Melalafen.

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:45 am
by Jeido
Yeah...just look at the difference:

http://thehiddenforest.dyndns.org/npc.php?id=124010 V http://thehiddenforest.dyndns.org/npc.php?id=120048...

If you look at the HP etc, then the loot then something is clearly off ><

Re: Tantor and the other animals, Melalafen.

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:05 am
by Tyler
Ok - as always thanks for feedback!

What you forget is thhe big picture - One does not simply walk into TOV! NTOV is the price for beating Emporer. You guys not only worked throught the quest to get the key to emp chamber but also managed to kill him. That's a long road right here - the reward is access to W/N/Tov.

Western Wastes - everyone just zones here and finds 400 hp loot. To balance it off, the mobs are tougher.

I will increase the drop chance to 100% (actually thought i already did that). Difficulty will stay more or less (i'll adjust their hp some).

Regards the Frozen Tear -> there is a Mob in this zone that will always drop one. And then there are mobs that have a small chance but are much easier. Exactly the idea you had -> make 1 mob a tough mofo but better drop chance. :)

Re: Tantor and the other animals, Melalafen.

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:35 pm
by Jeido
Ok thank you for changing the drop chance, but you are right about the keying part and I see your point. I thought the tear was only 50% drop chance on that mob you were mentioning, maybe I was mistaken.

Re: Tantor and the other animals, Melalafen.

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:59 pm
by Jeido
Are these changes in now, or do we need a server reload?

Re: Tantor and the other animals, Melalafen.

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:20 pm
by Tyler
Reload!

Re: Tantor and the other animals, Melalafen.

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:52 am
by Jeido
Hmm, Tantor seems to be rampaging (a lot, at that) but it doesn't say he does on alla? http://thehiddenforest.dyndns.org/npc.php?id=120048

Bugged?

Re: Tantor and the other animals, Melalafen.

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:46 am
by Kiowa
he rampaged on live normally so why not here?

Re: Tantor and the other animals, Melalafen.

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:33 pm
by Jeido
That's why I am thinking he's rampaging now, Mazzic, but that isn't the point. The point is that alla is showing him as not being a ramp mob, but in game it's another story. This isn't normal and I am trying to bring it to Tyler's attention to see if it's intended. When I did Strong Horn he did not ramp.