new pet parse

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Sian
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Re: new pet parse

Post#11 » Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:11 am

Your idea, though nice Magnas, would lead once again to an endless balancing between pets. In that case, it would be better to keep the 4 pets as they are and try to balance them again, rather than doing it all over from the beginning.
Idea to make just one tank and one dps pet (but with 3 different skins) isn't a bad one. At least, it gives some time to later come back to it. Or pets stay the way they are right now (not really fully balanced) and Vaion comes back to it when he has more time (in another life!).

In any case, it shows how difficult it is to balance just four pets. I can only imagine how to balance class compared to... Firenze for example. It's like riding a dead horse ! Pointless !

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Re: new pet parse

Post#12 » Thu May 29, 2014 4:48 am

Sorry, I would like to apologize up front for more pet hate!

I've seen donor mage pets critting for 150k. That's a possible 600k quad, and they hit very fast. I've had it consistantly out-dps my donor'd up Zerker, not counting any additional dps provided by the mage. That's sustained DPS from the pet outperforming the burst Donor BP clickies of melee during that Discs duration. The only one that trumps it is rogue, solely from the massive donor BP backstabs.

I really think the top end pets need to be looked at when all the focuses and buffs are applied. It's not even a comparison when a pet can do twice the dmg of a equally geared monk/ranger/wizard/bst.

Can anyone post some high-end parses involving pets?

Zerker: http://www.thehiddenforest.org/webtools/magelo/character.php?char=Yaeger
Rogue: http://www.thehiddenforest.org/webtools/magelo/character.php?char=Aegos

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Re: new pet parse

Post#13 » Thu May 29, 2014 1:58 pm

5 min parse on t8 dummy in ghall. Rank2 buffs (rk3 shaman), rank2/3 mix ench debuffs, rk3 mage debuff

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Re: new pet parse

Post#14 » Thu May 29, 2014 2:02 pm

That said, with Shaman BP rogue will jump ahead of mage donor pet. <3 the BP.
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Re: new pet parse

Post#15 » Thu May 29, 2014 2:28 pm

If you are talking about normal rogue yeah, but if you are talking about donor rogue, he is already ahead, like donor monk hehe.

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Re: new pet parse

Post#16 » Thu May 29, 2014 3:30 pm

Nilbie

Donor daggers, both donor augs, donor legs, donor bp. Non burn (no bp clickie) < mage pet (which I'm perfectly fine with)
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Re: new pet parse

Post#17 » Thu May 29, 2014 3:33 pm

He is behind with all buffs but donor bp click ? What's his dps at ? And with BP ?

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Re: new pet parse

Post#18 » Thu May 29, 2014 4:08 pm

Rk3 sham buffs (lion/glad/focus), rk2 focus of nature, seer rk2, illusion dark diplomat, vengeance of forsaken, aged power for overhaste. Auras - guardian, frenzy, death bringer.

I can run it again with just the rogue meleeing in case there was range issues with the dummy in hall (happens sometimes)
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Re: new pet parse

Post#19 » Thu May 29, 2014 4:53 pm

I don't have anything to add to parses, but in reviewing the older bit of the thread I see everyone talking about different pet "classes". Are there still these different mage/nec pet types? Does this only correspond to a certain "line" of pets (t8?)? If so, I assume the mage graphics indicate classes (earth - war, air - rogue, water - ?, fire - ?) but how does one identify what type of pet they got for nec? Is there a way to control the choice or is it just resummon?
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Re: new pet parse

Post#20 » Thu May 29, 2014 4:56 pm

For the t8 pets for necro and mage it is indeed a specific class per model.

I am not certain which ones are necro, but a #mystats on the pet will tell you the class number

Mage t8 - earth warrior, fire zerker, air monk, water rogue.
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