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[Denied] Dark Diplomat

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:53 pm
by Rude
Would you consider putting the illusion component of this buff in the short duration buff window so it can be clicked off/blocked? (similar to moon curse) It's such an awesome buff from the VP bp, but I hate running around with nothing but my sword/shield showing :P

Re: Dark Diplomat

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 9:17 pm
by Vaion
Made a poll in the thread regarding the change. Winner takes all. Will run for 2 weeks starting today since a lot of people are out for holidays.

Re: Dark Diplomat

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:11 pm
by Rude
TY :D

Re: Dark Diplomat

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:13 am
by Croco23
I completely agree. I stopped using it as I couldn't tell if my toon was standing, sitting, or FD from a mob proc.

Would love being able to click off the illusion part.

Re: Dark Diplomat

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:22 am
by Tristhan
Rude wrote:Would you consider putting the illusion component of this buff in the short duration buff window so it can be clicked off/blocked? (similar to moon curse) It's such an awesome buff from the VP bp, but I hate running around with nothing but my sword/shield showing :P


May i ask what exactly the change will bring before i vote.

If i want the illusion part, will it take another full slot in the short buff window ?
If yes i am against the change, this would be a huge disavantage (loosing another short buff slot). In the end i would loose this cool illu because short buff is badly needed.

This illu is perfect to keep the overview over a greater army or with lots of toons during raid (you ever tried Marstro with tons of Ogres ... pointing at Sianette :mrgreen: ).

Another idea: make the effect (worn) and keep the illu clickable (normal buff window).

Re: Dark Diplomat

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:47 am
by Rude
Well the request I made was to put the illusion in the short buff window, similar to moon curse and necro t8 lich (which the illusion component of those buffs are frequently blocked/clicked off so players can click this solely for it's added mana pres.) Your idea is better, but I think it would be difficult to get the mana pres effect to stack with all other worn/focus effects? :( Plus that would only work if the BP is actually worn, and I retired it a bit ago :( Perhaps also add an AA that increases short duration buff slots? :)

Re: Dark Diplomat

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:52 am
by Tristhan
Rude wrote:Well the request I made was to put the illusion in the short buff window, similar to moon curse and necro t8 lich (which the illusion component of those buffs are frequently blocked/clicked off so players can click this solely for it's added mana pres.) Your idea is better, but I think it would be difficult to get the mana pres effect to stack with all other worn/focus effects? :( Plus that would only work if the BP is actually worn, and I retired it a bit ago :(


Short buff slots are heavy needed and already short.
And this illu is perfect to make many toons "invisible" and important toons better targetable, at least for me.

Re: Dark Diplomat

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:56 am
by Rude
I guess Vaion was right to make it a poll then :D I kind of like the illusion at times, but 90% of the time it just irritates me because toons that I occasionally need to click are partly invisible, I don't get to show off mah pretty velious armors, and if I need to click the illusion off on a toon that needs to be readily targetable they have to deal with the 10% mana loss.

I suppose it is a preference thing, with people on both sides of the debate.

Re: Dark Diplomat

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 4:12 am
by Stickybuds
This item is a big part of my boxing setup. I would not like to see it changed. I have already had to sacrifice other buffs to make room in short buff window (and main buff window as well) and i would not like to see another buff split. I do not want this as a worn effect either, that would be terrible idea and I would rather see the bluff split than that happen please dont make it worn effect. This buff is very unique and the mana reduction effects are unique and stack. I continue to use this everyday all day even into T9 not just for the invis man illusion which i love on my box group but also for the mana cost reduction. Changing it to a worn would destroy the continued use of the item as there are much better upgrades. Splitting the buffs is putting strain on my already taxed buff bars.

I don't get whats the problem with the invis man illusion, i can tell np when my guys are ducked, FD, etc. Its just like the human illusion but no skin, the animations are all the same.

TL;DR pls pls pls dont change these items pppppplease!

regards,
sticky

Re: Dark Diplomat

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 4:16 am
by Rude
Increase short duration buff limit, imho :D