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Haydn's Chorus

Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 6:30 pm
by diaylomz
is there any way to make this song generate 0 agro? it seems it pulls agro when say.. a monk has it on and flops to split a pull, they just charge the bard. for instance in the frontier mountain event it became an issue and i had to stop using haydn's chorus and i really missed the mana regen. :) honestly could do without the hp regen myself but maybe others feel differently. can't say for sure if it is the poison/disease cure or the regen that pulls agro but i am guessing it is the regen.. maybe considered a heal.

Re: Haydn's Chorus

Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 10:26 pm
by Psizer
Is this not how bard songs functioned on live? Not to say that THF must follow live rules, but I'm speaking from an understanding that certain things are coded that can't be changed.

Re: Haydn's Chorus

Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 3:56 am
by diaylomz
i have no idea this is my first bard on any eq server really. just thought it might not be intended for a small regen to pull agro. i don't think druid or shaman regen buffs pull any hate. but this is a song and not a spell. maybe it can't be changed.

Re: Haydn's Chorus

Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 1:38 pm
by Thenrin
As long as the spell is cast and finished before aggro, yes, regen = no aggro. Problem with bards songs in this case, is that essencially they are constantly being cast. every time your gem goes dark, your casting, as far as mobs are concerned, and so what you have is the same as if you had cast a heal on the puller just before FD or rangergate. You dont have much aggro....but you only need 1 point to be on the list.

Re: Haydn's Chorus

Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 3:01 pm
by Jeido
Psizer wrote:Is this not how bard songs functioned on live? Not to say that THF must follow live rules, but I'm speaking from an understanding that certain things are coded that can't be changed.


Thenrin answered above, but no that isn't how it was/is on live. The only time bards would aggro a pullers mobs would be if they were actively playing songs on pulls. This usually happened with AE (Raid Wide) resist or AE regen songs (bad bards!).

Re: Haydn's Chorus

Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 5:37 pm
by Brontu
honestly i just make a point of making sure my bards not singing before any big pull, otherwise it generally ends in her death, especially in DS

Re: Haydn's Chorus

Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 5:43 pm
by Psizer
Jeido wrote:
Psizer wrote:Is this not how bard songs functioned on live? Not to say that THF must follow live rules, but I'm speaking from an understanding that certain things are coded that can't be changed.


Thenrin answered above, but no that isn't how it was/is on live. The only time bards would aggro a pullers mobs would be if they were actively playing songs on pulls. This usually happened with AE (Raid Wide) resist or AE regen songs (bad bards!).


What thenrin said is what I meant. It was like that on live.

Re: Haydn's Chorus

Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 8:15 pm
by Banderas
Brontu wrote:honestly i just make a point of making sure my bards not singing before any big pull, otherwise it generally ends in her death, especially in DS

Same here. It has been my rule since day one on live.

Re: Haydn's Chorus

Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 11:54 pm
by diaylomz
well as i said first bard i suppose i will just have to not sing til the fighting starts. i just posted cuz i wasn't sure if the agro was intended. thanks for the response.