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Should we let players 6 box?

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:02 am
by Lillu
Make your vote, give us feedback. Leave the drama out.

Re: Should we let players 6 box?

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:20 am
by Falcore
I voted yes, but I do not mind the changes to limit it either.

I have played with many people who box and I have yet to run into one who would not allow one of there chars to be dropped if I wanted to join. So from that point of view I have no gripes against boxers as all the people I have met who have boxed on this server are super cool :mrgreen:

I love people who box actually. As I personally dont box as I cant stand it :evil:, people who do box on this server allow people who dont box on this server to have a chance 8-)

I also think people who can box high raid encounters ( I hope we are not talking about the 1.5 dragons 8-) ) can do so because they are skilled players. I may be a bit biased on this but Jeido (as he is my guild leader) being able to Box Vulak (even if he takes along that panzy Monkz) is due to his skill and not just a boxing program. I have tried to box before, and I know I dont have the skill for it...

With that said I am not entirely opposed to putting a limit on boxers either, just because me personnel play style includes grouping with others (even if that means showing up randomly when they are already deep in a zone like a phantom :D ). But I owe all the boxers I have met a BIG thank you for all the fun it has allowed me to have when full groups of people were not available.

Re: Should we let players 6 box?

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:27 am
by catthib
I am so gonna burn in Hades for this...

I voted yes to 6-boxing but with restrictions. People wanna take on the big stuff, solo-ish with just their boxes and a bot? OK, then! Treat that player and crew like a mini-guild, because in essence, that's what they have made themselves.

Seriously, I'm amazed at how well things were running between the two big guilds here and how they handled the high-end content access to spawns. Somehow, a balance should be found that works for everyone. Hopefully the instancing of high-end zones will help with that.

I r shutting up now, need a whole lot more coffee today....

PS: I'm going to apologize in advance for all the extra work that the Devs will have to put in to implement some changes, especially this time of year.

Re: Should we let players 6 box?

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:41 am
by Koeril
What sort of restrictions are we talking about? I'm neither for or against 6-boxing. I think it trivializes content and leaves some people out, but then again I've always been treated well by all the 5-6 boxers I've grouped with and they've typically even dropped a character for me to join which is always uber cool of them.

My concern is how 6 boxing or 5 boxing with a bot is going to impact LDoN since you must form the group before you go in and once you go in you can not swap out group members. Makes it harder to bring others along and might make it harder overall for everyone else. Then again, I'm sure 5-6 boxers don't want to wait on others to join up for LDoN's

Suffice it to say, I've not voted yet until I find out what you meant by "restrictions".

Re: Should we let players 6 box?

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:50 am
by Tyler
Suffice it to say, I've not voted yet until I find out what you meant by "restrictions".


I have no idea tbh. Lillu put up the poll, maybe he can explain whats on his mind.

Re: Should we let players 6 box?

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:55 am
by Lillu
well, I thought it's obvious, that if ppl vote for yes, but with restrictions, they will explain or suggest what's in their mind. This poll is about getting feedback, and make the proper decision accordingly.

Re: Should we let players 6 box?

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:58 am
by Lillu
This poll has nothing to do with Ldon. You'll be able to start an adventure with only 2 toons grouped, and if all works out well with the new custom code, even with 1 toon AND a bot.

Re: Should we let players 6 box?

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:20 pm
by catthib
O ye gods, I'm supposed to explain my reason and try to make sense?! The sun isn't even up yet!!! Please pardon the incoherence, the caffeine is slow to work this morning.....

I would propose a flag of some sort on that player and boxes. Which would institute some sort of lock-out timer in the higher-end zones. I don't really know how much of the higher content is geared for one group of players, as I have barely poked a toe in Fungus Grove so far. PoTime was a prime example, you couldn't whack Quarm on a daily basis.

But now I'm torn again, and feeling slightly hypocritical. I don't want someone telling me how I have to play, and here I'm suggesting that we limit someone else's playstyle by imposing restrictions. But I feel that there has to be -some- sort of limit imposed before some player decides to field an entire raid of boxes and bots. Because once that happens, where will it stop?? I would say that 6 boxing should be the absolute maximum.

Re: Should we let players 6 box?

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:05 pm
by Koeril
Ok, understand the restrictions part now. I thought you had some in mind already.

Re: Should we let players 6 box?

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:13 pm
by Desimus
No - I think 4 is a good number especially when you include a bot.

P.s I only have 3.. rarely do I log 4.