The Hidden Forest

Hello THF,
I was hoping someone with Monk experience could give me a hand. My guild consists of a buddy and mine who are each 6-boxing. That being said, we just downed the sleeper and are going into PoF.

Our groups are below. Everyone in the group is contributing (WAR's tanking, off war doing like 5K dps, T8 Pets rocking it, and even the rogues with 2.5's doing like 5-6K dps.) That being said, I can only seem to pull off around 1500 DPS on my Monk with 2.5 and Kiss of Life proc in primary and Sceptre of Destruction from warders in the other.

My rotation currently is only attack, flying kick when its up, and that RK1 attack when its up. Is there something more I could be, should be doing. Please note 1500 dps is with the RK1 Enc debuff on, so its actually even lower.

My toons name is: Widjan
webtools/magelo/character.php?char=Widjan

My Group:
WAR
ENC
CLE
ROG
WIZ
MNK

His Group:
WAR
BRD
BST
MAG
ROG
SHM

Your group lacks a Bard, which will make a noticeable difference with the overhaste (42% v2 haste from T8 version). This in turn means your weapons are proccing less (less swings = less chances to proc) than they theoretically could.

I would recommend using the Guild Hall dps dummies - you can run tests on timed intervals so you're sure that 1) parse times aren't biasing results, and 2) the target has the same defensive stats for all tests. Use the Tier 3 dummy (since that's progression-appropriate for you) and compare 3 sets of 1 minute parses with the Monk vs. Rogue or T8 pet and see what you get.

You also need to get an Haste item for your monk, thats why your dps sucks.
use your 2.0 clicky whenever it's up.

you currently only have 1 aug proc , you need to farm more Kiss of life augs, 1 type 4 augs kiss of life from the frog in postorm for your primary and 1 kiss of life augs from the ST quest. if you are able to kill the Sleeper , his weapon has a double aug slot.

and you indeed lack a bard in your group. Every group must have a bard on this server to be efficient


GL young monk,

I currently use the 8% overhaste clicky from the explorer badge quest line. Is there a better one I can get since I am bardless? We have considered building a third group, so I could probably fit a bard in if required, but I never really liked them.. I was always an enchanter guy :0)

I empathize. My first character on THF was a monk, and well... I retired that monk for precisely this reason. From the looks of things you are doing everything that I know to do. Auto attack + flying kick + t8 combat ability while rotating dps disciplines when they're up.

Further, I see that your gear is quite good for your level. I don't see much that you can do to improve for your tier except to ensure that your weapons are fully aug'd.

I don't disagree that the other advice will improve your dps, but I disagree that it will solve your issue. A bard will only exacerbate the disparity between your monk's DPS and your other DPS. A haste item, you already have (but maybe didn't at the time of posting this?).

Monks could probably use a little dev love

our monk friend here has no worn haste item , no wonder why his dps sucks :p

Regen 48
FT 48
DS 41
Haste 0%

You also lack some AAs , you have the most important , but try to get 200 more AA and your dps will increase.


I see you have the donor bp. if you are up to getting some more donor item , I would go leggs + donor augs.

I have a monk, with the right donor item , and trust me , his dps is more then just ok.

He has haste, it's just not reporting in the summary.

Of course, donor items will increase the power of a character. However, he's comparing to non-donor dps classes (and even the off-tank Warrior) and the damage isn't even close to on par from what is being reported. I think some parses would be beneficial to compare relative power of the aforementioned Rogue and Warrior vs. the Monk.

I went ahead and bought the donor BP after thinking long and hard about retiring my monk. I really like him, but I don't want dead weight either . I will say the donor BP is feast or famine. Hes doing like 20K dps with bp/epic click on, and like 2K with it off

I checked my #Mystats and I do have max item haste, not sure why its not reporting. Are there any particular AA's that I should still be going for, I checked them over a few times, and I can't find anything useful if I am not taking the primary damage.

Went to edit my last post and saw something newer. I should have been more clear: since we're wanting to look at the Monk when his donor click isn't active the best way to compare is to do some parses. It could just be that Monks need some love, but I think this is the way to tell.

Our monk is doing ok DPS wise, with just the donator weapon. Funnily enough on the Rallos Zek fight he out DPSs rogue and zerker when the weapons are equalised (everyone has bane weapons equipped). Once he get's some other items with the damage discs such as felstrike and power of fear he'll be doing better, don't forget you have other discs too like rapid kicks, black belt and infused chaose discipline as well. You've got the BP now anyway, which is perhaps overkill but it's all good

If you can box an extra character each, I'd get another bard for reasons already discussed, and a druid for their 2.0 debuff, especially as you have a wizard and mage but it will also help all the combat procs, extra heals are always welcome too. I'd also replace one of the warriors with a knight class, as the ability to resist fear can be handy later on, unless you can box it in addition.

Also I just noticed your wizard isn't in the group with the bard, he'd benefit even more then the monk I would think.