The Hidden Forest

Hi,

I've been stuck on Zi'Thuuli a few days now. I used to play a long time ago and was able to box him pretty easily before, but the Obsidian Gargoyles (red adds in the first stage) now seem to heal ~50 - 60% of their HP every five seconds or so (it's before I can get 2 chaotic detonations off, at least).

I know there's one add you can hurt and one you can't-- on the one I can hurt, a Wizzie + Monk + Beserker + Rogue + Bard struggle taking them down before they heal up (unless I get real lucky on 2.0 clicks). I have a few ideas for additional tactics, but I'm curious if I'm totally missing something here? Is it a big DPS check?

Thanks,

BongoDrongo

I know what you mean about the HP regen thing, but personally I never actually struggled to kill them, and when I first started doing DSK my DPS was pretty bad.. but I always had pretty good burst DPS with four wizards, so that's probably why I didn't struggle with them. It doesn't sound to me like you're missing anything, you just need to be able to burst them down quickly. You may need to add another DPS char to your raid.. or maybe you'll get lucky with the upcoming rogue rank-based AA and that will push you over the edge.

Ah thanks. That makes sense, I was thinking if I had another wizard or two I would have enough immediate damage to make the encounter straight forward, but was feeling too lazy to level one up and do another 2.0. I'm going to try to be a bit better about syncing various epics to see if I can eek out enough damage.

I got stuck on Redfang last time I played on the server with a smaller boxing group (in like 2011, so a long time ago) and was like, "You know what, I'm going to see if I can finally get past DSK Tier 1. I'm going to level up a SK." Added 5 more toons to my boxing group. Went to check on how the SK was getting on and lo! Zi'Thuuli had become my new roadblock!

There are several more DPS checks in DSKII which will probably force you to add another DPS char anyways so if I were you I would just get it over with now and level up another wizard. Azail, Visath, Hatchet and Xeru all have mechanics in their encounters which make it much more difficult to win if you DPS is low. Even Kortiz becomes much easier with better DPS because it reduces the amount of time that you need to tank both him and his clone at the same time.

I've literally only just broken into DSK1 too and been considering adding another group of dps because of this fight.

I've got the same thing with the health regen.. i do 40% damage, they regen for 30, i do 40, they do 30, and so on. I am out-dpsing their regen, but it's a long phase and fairly often they actually get a net heal so i have to be really quick on IDing and targetting the right one.

Still not cracked part 2 of it though.

I kinda hoped coming into this post would give me some secret insight but if it is just a dps check i guess that just confirms things. Maybe time to add a group of mages..

If either of you are gonna add more DPS, I recommend keeping in mind that wiz and monk are kinda ahead of the other DPS classes right now because of the rank-based AA's that they have gotten but haven't been added to the other DPS classes yet. It looks like rogue might be the next to get them per the recent rogue DPS thread.

Thanks for the sanity check. I flagged my mage and redid some timing in my setup and the fight became pretty straight forward. Ironically, after the first stage, all my dps died except the monk monk, war, and mage pet but they managed to pull through.

Now, it's time to wipe to my old arch nemesis, Redfang. My AC check on my SK went poorly.