The Hidden Forest

Would it be possible to turn off the group illusion buffs for those items off? Like being able to turn the items into the same box in forest as the other ones? I know these are buffed based and not just part of wearing the item. But always spend time clicking off the illusions so I can see my characters. If the buffs lasted longer than 12 minutes it wouldn’t be so bad lol. Thoughts?

You should be able to block those buffs (illusions) since they have a buff icon, unlike the permanent illusion effects on other items.

How do you block them? Is there a command?

If you right click on the spell's buff icon, there should be an option to add it to a list of blocked spells. That should work I think.

Do the illusions also have some beneficial element as well? I thought the werewolf helped mana regen last I looked.
If not, I'm gonna be blocking some illusions real soon.

Tysin wrote:Do the illusions also have some beneficial element as well? I thought the werewolf helped mana regen last I looked.
If not, I'm gonna be blocking some illusions real soon.

You guys are killing the fantasy aspects of the game. but yeah, the web tools should be able to show if any beneficial effect is tied to a particular illusion.

The main issue I have with the illusions is when they are cast, you lose shrink. If you shrink with werewolf on, and re-cast sure before the buffs wear off, you're no longer shrunk.
You absolutely need to be shrunk in DSK 3 as Maestro can know you over the ledge. If you're shrunk, he just knocks you into the wall.

As a proposed solution to the above issue I raised Lillu, would you consider adding an AA ability to all classes that don't have it already, for a permanent illusion capability?

So maybe for 50AA, you get an ability which lets you keep an illusion across zone lines etc? The illusion takes up a buff slot, so it's precious space, but could let folks keep the fantasy aspect and not worry about losing shrink?

Tysin wrote:As a proposed solution to the above issue I raised Lillu, would you consider adding an AA ability to all classes that don't have it already, for a permanent illusion capability?

So maybe for 50AA, you get an ability which lets you keep an illusion across zone lines etc? The illusion takes up a buff slot, so it's precious space, but could let folks keep the fantasy aspect and not worry about losing shrink?

It's a great idea, but unfortunately it's not possible to implement the way EQ works client/server side. Whenever you zone, you'll lose your illusion.

I can always take a look at illusion related problems like we did in the past with several items already. Generally speaking, when an illusion is taking up a buff slot, like Elven Rope, the simliest solution is to block that illusion spell effect the way I mentioned above. If there's an item with a 'permanent' illusion (shown when equipped aka. working via script) then we usually offer an identical item without the illusion portion, which you can exchange for at Trizy, The Exchange Master.

The only time when it's a bit more complex is when/if there's a spell effect that you can't block because it has illusion but also other beneficial effects included in the same spell that you wouldn't want to lose. This is a bit more complex to fix because we either need to remove the illusion (which not every player might agree with) or create yet again another identical item, without the illusion portion, but for this we need a new item and then a new spell and so on..

Sorry about the long winded explanation, I just try to give some information on why it's a bit messy when it comes to illusions and preferences and possible solutions. Also, to sum it up, is there actually an item/spell that we still need to look at? Something you can't simply block?

Thanks for the info! I think the buffs associated from both those items have their own buff icon not associated with the illusion. The illusion shows up in the bard song box and the buffs in the buff box. I’ll try blocking the illusion part and see !