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I'm looking to add new tier based AAs for rogues similar to what has been done with monk/wizard. The descrepency between donor rogue and non donor rogue is probably the largest at the moment so the goal is to look at balancing non donor rogue damage. Will not use donor dps as a guide of course, will just be comparing to other non donor classes, especially monk as they've already had new AAs added.

If anyone can post their rogue DPS no matter what tier/equipment and list what buffs/debuffs/AAs you're using that would be very helpful!

Hmm i wouldn't mind to parse my none donor rogue or even donor rogue since i have both but the problem would be the overall state of gearing and the AAs on my none donor rogue seems to be not fair.

Honestly wouldn't the test server maybe a better place to parse + if someone had access to AA / none donor gear for purpose of testing.
Only thing i noticed that the last time i parsed my none donor monk was way ahead of my none donor rog in DPS.

It was easy for me to take off my donor weapon and make a parse so here it is

Rogue: Lydroth
AAs: All DPS AA's
Gear: Mixed T6/T7 (Exalted with 466 points, see weapon info below)

Buffs (standard raid buffs which are always on, all listed were up for the entire duration of parse, non-dps buffs not listed)
Buffs: Champion's Perseverance, True Thoughts, Ancestral Focus Rk. I, Illusion: Dark Diplomat (T6 Chest)
Songs: Aura of Mighty, Stronghold, Deathbringer, Witchdoctor, Bloodmage, Song of the Orcslayer, Deceiver's Blight (Epic 2), Thief's Eyes
Discs: Power of Fear (T6 Ring)

T6 Dummy, 3 Minute duration

12,191
12,887
11,359
12,618
12,513
AVG: 12,313

Weapon Situation:
I had to switch out my donor weapon which I will have switched back by the time you look at the magelo so here is my weapon setup for the parse

Primary: Dagger of Domination (Tier 7) (102/21, +60 BSD) (Thunder VII)
-Aug1(8): Stone of Lost Memories (T7) (Concussion)
-Aug2(16): Discordant Rage (T7)
-Aug3(17): Skeleton Gear (T7)

Secondary: Vampiric Fang of Blood (Tier 7) (88/21 +10 Psn Dmg +65 BSD) (Thunder VII)
-Aug1(8): Dark Coffin Fragment (T7)
-Aug2(16): Dark Ball of Energy (T7)
-Aug3(17): Dreadspire Shard (T7) (Lure of Frost)

With my T3 Rogue, I havent augged her weapons yet but shes sitting around 4k dps vs. the hub CT dumy. Suprising how low that is. In my typical fight she comes in above the zerker and roughly even with my monk.

214 AA spent.

http://www.thehiddenforest.org/webtools ... r=Stabinne

did u parse on the back of the dummie?

Yes, she was behind the dummy.

Name: Jekyll (Tier 8 dummy)
Non donor Rog: 14,570/14,256/13,683/13,534/13,767
Non donor DPS: Zerker: 18k/War: 12.3k/Monk: 32k (w/new AAs)

Haste: 225%/Attack 2592/Str 503/Dex 512
Skills: backstab/Assassin's Chaos Rk. II/Deep Shadows Rk. II
Short Buffs:Thief's Eyes/War March of Chaos/Storm Blade/
Slayer's Destiny Rk.II/Znoth's Verse of Vesagran
DPS Buffs: Moon Curse Rk.III/Spirit of the Lion Rk.III/Gladiator Rk.III/
Insight of the Seer Rk.III/Spiritual Endowment Rk.III/
Strength of the WildRunner Rk.II/Ancestral Focus Rk.III

Prime: Entombed Rapier of the Watcher 131/20 (65 bsd)
2nd: Blade of Fireblood 110/20

Most dps AAs (I think?, still working Anatomy 2/9 and Slippery Attacks)

I have been looking at my Rog DPS for a few weeks now, was starting to explore poisons to see if that was the missing boost.

I have been looking at my Rog DPS for a few weeks now, was starting to explore poisons to see if that was the missing boost.

Yeah I've been looking at my rogue as well since noticing my monk doing so much better with the new AA's, but I don't see anything else that I can do and it looks like you're doing the same stuff as me other than just having higher tier spells. I once looked in to poisons and I heard that poisons weren't really a thing on this server, so I didn't bother looking in to it anymore.. although recently I bought the poison proc AA in hopes that Deceiver's Blight may count as a poison although I have no idea if it does or not.

The new rank-based AA's that the monk got are just really powerful, so I'm guessing Rogues will catch up when they get them as well. I think my monk's DPS (non-donor) went up by 40 to 60% with the new rank AA's alone (up to Tier 6).

Thanks for the parses so far

Are you using frenzied stabbing/night fury at all? That would be interesting too.

Ashtin - http://www.thehiddenforest.org/webtools ... ter=Ashtin

Decent Gear, only missing rare arms from VT for the 15% damage increase and screwed up on which dagger from Solteris to aug (didn't know two dropped). But other then that it's pretty much good as you can get.
All parses are from behind, cause that's how rogue's swing.

Buffs: Donor Sune Rk 3 buffs
aura of the mighty / blood mage / Death Bringer
Deceiver's Blight (epic 2.0 click)
Ancestrial Power I - 20% overhaste
Brilliance of Might II - spell crit 10%
Flurry 1 - 2% flurry chance

T1 Raid Parser (Atcho):

Disc - Touch of Chaos 1 (+45% damage mod)
1min - 39694.2 / 38725.2 / 36859.6 / 35740.8

Disc - Night Fury Rk. 3
1 min - 50978.8 / 49092.6 / 53880.4 / 50428.4

Add Bard Songs:
Slayers Destiny Rk3 / War March of Chaos / Storm Blade / Spirit of Vesagran

Disc - Touch of Chaos 1
1min - 47627.2 / 50502.5 / 46860.5 / 48695.7

Disc - Night Fury Rk. 3
1min - 61589.0 / 68546.7 / 68070.9 / ran out of stamina

Most attempts on T1 raid dummy due to inconsistencies of missing/resists being more likely on higher dummies, with so few attempts could skew data.

T8 Raid Parser (Atche)

All Buffs / songs

Disc - Touch of Chaos 1
1min - 36107.4 / 35253.8 / 37107.0 / 44851.0