What's the strategy to kill Sleeper?

[Ditri]

thanks all...

interesting to note, i actually was working on my 2.0 as I wait for ST warden repops.

I'm interested to see how i do my next attempt.

does anyone know if it's possible to cast outside the range of his AE? maybe i can back up the nukers.... that would be excellent.

[Stickybuds]

i think you can with a high enough distance foci but i doubt any distance foci you have by T3 will be far enough.

[Noren]

basically, I got him to around 45% but then ran outta mana.

What classes, in particular, ran out of mana?

If I recall my first experience... a guildy and I each played a couple characters and our makeup was:
War
Monk
Bard
Cler
Ber
Shm
Mag

We stashed the two healers under the bridge (mentioned several times already), and they kept the warrior up (with the help of mana clickies).

The tough factor was the raid damage. The biggest boon to us was solo auras. The lifetap proc helped immensely with raid heals. My advice to you is have your healers focus on the tank and figure out a secondary healer to keep the raid alive. Lifetap procs are a great start. Necro group lifetaps are a huge help, also.

Overall, though, I'm surprised Sleeper lives long enough for you to go oom with 12 players in the raid. What are your group setups and buffs, and do you buff in an order that puts the best buffs in the higher slots to preserve them from the dispel?

[Ditri]

basically, I got him to around 45% but then ran outta mana.

What classes, in particular, ran out of mana?

If I recall my first experience... a guildy and I each played a couple characters and our makeup was:
War
Monk
Bard
Cler
Ber
Shm
Mag

We stashed the two healers under the bridge (mentioned several times already), and they kept the warrior up (with the help of mana clickies).

The tough factor was the raid damage. The biggest boon to us was solo auras. The lifetap proc helped immensely with raid heals. My advice to you is have your healers focus on the tank and figure out a secondary healer to keep the raid alive. Lifetap procs are a great start. Necro group lifetaps are a huge help, also.

Overall, though, I'm surprised Sleeper lives long enough for you to go oom with 12 players in the raid. What are your group setups and buffs, and do you buff in an order that puts the best buffs in the higher slots to preserve them from the dispel?

He has a lot of hp compared to other mobs ive fought. Im not familiar with the auras actually.

My 2 groups are:
WAR
MNK
BRD
CLR
MAG
DRU

and

CLR
NEC
ROG
ENC
SHM
PAL


In general it's quite effective. But i dont doubt there is some wasted healing going on. My focus is on keeping the tank alive, and in general, he does fairly well. I mean, ive progressed pretty much legit with this set up.

Is it possible to cure whatever it is the Sleeper casts? That might help a lot. I actually never got a good look at what he's casting. I think its a disease.

Oh, and for the Sleeper fight i actually 3 group it and the SHM and MAG form their own group so that each group has a cleric bot.

[Nilbus]

If you are using a bot cleric for junk buffs, they can (or could, don't think its been changed) cure the entire group with a #bot cure disease

[jsre]

I fight him near a pillar, you can hide casters with lev so they're just out of sight halfway up the pillar, and position melee so they're all in range of a word of alchemist click. You have to work out the positioning first to make sure melee are in range of the group heals/clicks. If you keep WOA (shaman donator) and SK drain (donator) up if you had one, the group shouldn't need much healing if any. Otherwise you can use the cleric's group complete heal (word of redemption, level 60) which is the most mana efficient heal in the game. With two clerics you should be able to park one, chain cast group cheal till oom, then orb that one back to FM, and bring out the other to take over group cheals. If you cycle the clerics well it should be impossible to run out of mana, with bardsong and enc buffs going I'd be surprised if you run out of mana after 15 min on one cleric.

I never worried about keeping buffs up, just used bard haste and he didn't do enough damage to need HP buffs on defensive war. Also I think the godly conversion/gladiator line doesn't get dispelled so you can use that to boost dps. If you had an SK you could also keep their spell up which gives the group a lifetap proc.. and the solo lifetap aura is well worth it if you have a bunch of melee in the group, from memory the proc is a group heal so when you have a bunch of melee and pets going the healing stacks up quickly.

[Ditri]

dear god on that cleric bot cure.... that would be awesome.

also FWIW i have no donor items. thanks for the great tips.

i never tried a group CH chain cast strat. sounds interesting!

[Ditri]

Finally got the sum last night!....

Learning about the Bot Cure Disease really helped I think. Thank you a lot for that pro tip.

Otherwise, I think it's a case where bots need to be on top of their game and not miss heals, etc. I got 3 epic 2.0s including the WAR tank and that definitely helped. Once the tank can stay somewhat stable then the dps is not too hard to control since they aren't all ticking on the DOT. Huge difference with the cures.

The tank died around 10%, I believe, simply because my toons don't "follow orders" well enough hah.

[Slaybackaskani]

The sleeper is a bastard. I liked being able to read what others did for him. What I did was pull him all the way to the gate. I have my groups all shrunk and pushed into the corners so the AE never hits any of them. I use a necro iwth harmshield to pull him all the way there, run in with warrior, pop disc and just burn as fast as i can. I have two clerics spamming the quick heals and i have a shaman and druid doing likewise about 3 seconds after the clerics. All my casters chain nuke and the pets and melee classes smack from behind. I box 12 and haven't had too many issues killing him even before i finished 2.0 and 90% of my sleeper augs. Great fight though. Avatars in air are what are rocking me now.

[Lucent]

except if you pull the sleeper to the corner his aoe will be in the corner now. So that doesn't make any sense