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themike316
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block

Post#1 » Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:41 am

i didnt know where to put this but does block % mods on items/augs work for shield block aa or just for like monk/bst with block ability?

Firenze
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Re: block

Post#2 » Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:35 pm

not 100 % sure , but Block = Block monk/bst skill and won't affect anything else.
Firenze of VallonZek <Europea>

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jsre
Posts: 188

Re: block

Post#3 » Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:38 pm

Block AA for war/sk/knight is not modified by items, it's a flat 2.5/5/10% for each rank (total not cumulative).

Obvious
Posts: 98

Re: block

Post#4 » Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:22 pm

I have wondered about this as well. If jsre is right, why do they put improved block focus and % skill mod on tank only items then? can someone in the know confirm this is the case on THF?

Deadspirit
Posts: 260

Re: block

Post#5 » Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:54 pm

Long awaited secrets:


Shroud of Longevity has historically been a monk item.

Aphrodite's Gauntlets of Desire is also clearly a monk item - everyone knows that Aphrodite only kisses Mummies... and the only class thats good enough at bandaging to make a mummy is a monk... Its just pure quiescence that other classes can use it too. Yea, monks also jam out with instruments.
Thanks for the memories.

jsre
Posts: 188

Re: block

Post#6 » Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:29 am

In lieu of a THF dev response ..

Standard emu code goes in this order;

Can defender block? (checks for monk/bst class and level)
if yes then.. Check if defender block skill > 0
if yes then block chance = (some product of block skill) + items.bonuses and spell.bonuses

Does defender have block aa
if yes then block chance = 2.5% or 5% or 10% based on number of AA's


A Max block skill monk will be at 11% with 400+ dex, before spell / item mods.
(2% + (Block skill/35) + (Dex/200))

Max for tanks is 10%, with no mods from dex/items.


So unless THF devs have tinkered with combat code, there's no benefits for knights/wars from +block focus or skill items, unless they count towards parry. The block focus' spell effect ID indicates it only increases block skill, I've never looked at the code to see how its handled so can't claim to be be 100% sure.

diaylomz
Posts: 160

Re: block

Post#7 » Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:22 pm

the focus says it increases chance. and it doesn't make skill go higher. the % however does make skill go higher. i was always curious if the focus was a % boost to chance to block and the % was for skill and useless... but focus still useful for tanks. i wish i knew for sure. i don't wanna swap out my shoulders til i can be sure it doesn't help me.

jsre
Posts: 188

Re: block

Post#8 » Thu Jul 28, 2011 10:26 am

The formula above is from the server code, so it's a pretty safe bet your shoulders aren't helping ;-)

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