Shamans

[zeek1228]

i still feel the shaman pet could use some help. it is very weak and i feel we should be able to use the canni spell more often.

[khaliss]

I don't use the pet anymore because they'll just die too quickly (ramp/AE/enraged)... then you have to resummon and rebuff (ie. not worth the hassle). I don't want to micro-manage it cuz I box and it's hard to keep up with everything during tough fights.

The shaman used to have a lot more utility when I was still playing on Live. Those buffs were golden and having a shaman in group was such a big plus. All my shaman does now is just buff panther and HEAL. I just wish the buffs were useful again, but right now they aren't since everyone gets their stats maxed out on T2/T1 gear.

-edit- Oh BTW, I saw a server update announcement saying that spell/ability changes for shamans are done. Can anyone refer me to the thread about it? Tried searching, can't seem to find one.

[ChaosSlayer]

shaman pets recently got a BIG BOOST for DPS power (if you solo/group on non rampage mobs), and it procs a buff onto itself which gives it 70% haste and +350% chance to critical

other than that I am out of ideas how to help them more...

[khaliss]

Nice! I didn't know that Will those boosts stack with the usual things I buff my pet with (stats, ATK, etc) or I don't need to buff the pet at all?

[ChaosSlayer]

here is the link to the spell
http://www.thehiddenforest.org/spell.php?id=8833

as you see it gets 150 atk in 1st slot, 70% haste in 2nd, and 380 critical in 3rd

so using this you can figure out what else you need to put on it, but I am pretty sure haste and atk are well covered

[khaliss]

Sweet, that leaves 3 other buff slots to cover. I like it!

[ChaosSlayer]

actually those "slots" are for spell stacking reference =)

For example if you have 2 spells:

Spell A:
slot 1 - Haste 20%
slot 2 - HP buff for 2k

Spell B:
slot 1 - Haste 1%
slot 2 - AC buff +200 AC

These spell will NOT stack, because they have identical effect in slot 1

Now look at this:
Spell A:
slot 1 - Haste 20%
slot 2 - HP buff for 2k

Spell C:
slot 1 - HP buff for 2k
slot 2 - AC buff +200 AC

These 2 spell WILL stack cause they do not have matching effect in identical slot, so you will get all 4 bonus, and HP from BOTH spells


So its not directly related to how many buffs you can have on a pet, but rather which effects are in which slots

[khaliss]

Yeah I kinda understood that, what I meant was that pets only have 4 buff slots, right? So this proc takes one buff slot, which leaves 3 other buffs (sta, focus, etc.)

Thanks for the detailed info though, makes it more clearer to me.

[Valsavis]

Your pet can hold more buffs, not sure what they cap at but it's probably just as many as a player. You should be able to drag and expand the pet window to see other buffs.

[aabamzen]

The shaman used to have a lot more utility when I was still playing on Live. Those buffs were golden and having a shaman in group was such a big plus. All my shaman does now is just buff panther and HEAL. I just wish the buffs were useful again, but right now they aren't since everyone gets their stats maxed out on T2/T1 gear.

There are more buffs than just panther that will help out anyone maxed on mod/mod2 stats. Check out talismans of fortitude, might, and sense. Also, champion will provide a boost in atk/dmg.