Shaman Spell: Talisman of Perseverance

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khaliss
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Shaman Spell: Talisman of Perseverance

Post#1 » Tue May 11, 2010 7:03 pm

With the nerf to panther, I believe shamans need a little loving from this point on to maintain its desirability in groups/raids. One thing I can think of is upgrading this gimp spell:

Talisman of Perseverance (Level 69, group buff)
Effect type : Increase Hitpoints by 60 per tick
Duration : 20 min 30 sec (205 ticks)
When cast on you : Your body begins to heal faster
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New Level 70 custom spell (make it drop from a BoT named, Agnarr maybe... so I have a reason to visit that zone lol):

Chaotic Perseverance (level 70, group buff)
Effect type : Increase Hitpoints by 100 and mana by 40 per tick
Duration : 1 hour 3 mins (630 ticks)
When cast on you : Your body & spirit begins to recover faster

Why longer duration? Convenience, so it can be buffed and refreshed together with my other favorite shammy spells: Talisman of Fortitude & Sense.
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khaliss
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Re: Shaman Spell: Talisman of Perseverance

Post#2 » Tue May 11, 2010 7:30 pm

Woops, sorry for posting it on the wrong section. please feel free to move it to the appropriate forum. Thanks.
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khaliss
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Re: Shaman Spell: Talisman of Perseverance

Post#3 » Tue May 11, 2010 8:39 pm

I admit I didn't rethink the math extensively... 100mana/tick regen is too OPed lol.

Perhaps 100hp/40mana regen per tick is a more reasonable tradeoff with the nerf to panther. Will put casters in a more equal footing with melee on long fights.
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Pyronost
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Re: Shaman Spell: Talisman of Perseverance

Post#4 » Tue May 11, 2010 10:23 pm

Name : Blessing of Oak
Classes : Druid (69)
When cast on you : Your skin takes on the vigor of an oak.
When cast on other : 's skin takes on oaken vigor.
When fading : The oaken vigor fades.
Mana : 1100
Skill : Alteration
Casting time : 6 sec
Recovery time : 2.5 sec
Recast time : 2.25 sec
Range : 0
Target : Group
Resist : None (adjust: 0)
Duration : 21 min (210 ticks)
1 : Effect type : Increase Hitpoints by 150
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You guys really should look into other classes sometime :p Quite a few have some amazing buffs, like the druid with his 150hp/tick.
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khaliss
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Re: Shaman Spell: Talisman of Perseverance

Post#5 » Tue May 11, 2010 10:38 pm

Well, seeing that I don't play a druid (never had)... I don't know much about their spells, etc. So what do you think of my suggestion? Shamans need a little love after that panther nerf :-)

A 100hp/40mana regen buff spell is not too much to ask for (in compensation), right? ;) Perhaps even 50mana? lol

Make it cost a lot of mana to cast... since it has a much longer duration and is a group buff... maybe around 3.5K. I remember back in live, by the time a shaman has buffed all of the group members, he is at 30-50% mana, so yeah there is a bit of downtime, but the buffs were quite useful.
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Tyler
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Re: Shaman Spell: Talisman of Perseverance

Post#6 » Wed May 12, 2010 7:57 am

Yea thats the biggest problem Pyro. They only know War/Cle/Rog and end of the game.

They'd be amazed what a combination of Bard/Druid would do to their DPS. It's like i said in another thread - if you don't want to bring a Shaman and Enchanter to a raid and complain about resists - that's not my problem! :)
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Wilus
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Re: Shaman Spell: Talisman of Perseverance

Post#7 » Wed May 12, 2010 8:48 am

Tyler wrote:It's like i said in another thread - if you don't want to bring a Shaman and Enchanter to a raid and complain about resists - that's not my problem! :)



Too true :lol:

khaliss
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Re: Shaman Spell: Talisman of Perseverance

Post#8 » Wed May 12, 2010 9:40 pm

I don't even malo anymore (wait, am I being a noob? lol)... it gets resisted way too much.
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youthdragon
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Re: Shaman Spell: Talisman of Perseverance

Post#9 » Thu May 13, 2010 3:44 am

Malos cannot be resisted. And it just got a buff as I recall to make it more useful. Then again I just got the forums to go by as I cannot log back on till SoD is enable.

Relnon
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Re: Shaman Spell: Talisman of Perseverance

Post#10 » Thu May 13, 2010 8:52 am

Make a 'chaotic' wunshi type buff for shamans (don't give it to Sune) that can go over the stat cap even further than regular wunshi. Same with their fortitude line.

That should make people want them in raids.

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