SK dps Fail

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khaliss
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Re: SK dps Fail

Post#11 » Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:22 pm

Relnon wrote:Maybe tweak the warrior epics and retune all hate augs that currently do damage to do no damage (but maybe add some more hate to compensate).


That is not a good solution IMO... that will just make warriors get the kiss of life augs from PoAir/ST (I know I would) which puts out decent agro also. Perhaps lowering the innate critical chance of warriors might be a good start. My warrior can easily chain a series of crits... or a lower haste cap, maybe?
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Tyler
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Re: SK dps Fail

Post#12 » Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:29 pm

Yea, iwas thinking on a combination of lower crit rate + lower skill caps for dual wield/ double attack.
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Spell Change -> Reload AND new Spellfile needed

khaliss
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Re: SK dps Fail

Post#13 » Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:38 pm

if you lower the dual wield / double attack skill caps, will that affect proc rate though? Cuz warriors depend a lot on anger procs to keep agro. But if you do a serious nerf to crit rate, it shouldn't affect proc rate, so that way warriors can still generate decent agro (via procs) even if our dps is tuned down.
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Tyler
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Re: SK dps Fail

Post#14 » Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:42 pm

Even if it does, we can compensate that with larger Hate values for hate augs.
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Spell Change -> Reload AND new Spellfile needed

khaliss
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Re: SK dps Fail

Post#15 » Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:50 pm

^Good point... I just think warriors crit too much, putting a hard nerf to that would be a simplier way to tone down a warrior's damage output. This way, it won't affect warriors who are in defensive disc (0% crit chance), so a warrior can still hold decent agro.
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Re: SK dps Fail

Post#16 » Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:53 pm

Now the bad news, War and Ber crit rate are tied. If i reduce War crit rate, Ber start to suck again ;)
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khaliss
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Re: SK dps Fail

Post#17 » Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:56 pm

Ahh, no way to untie it? LOL Would have been a simple fix to nerf crit rate.
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Relnon
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Re: SK dps Fail

Post#18 » Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:56 pm

Ouch. Would increasing the zerker skill caps be able to compensate for that?

khaliss
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Re: SK dps Fail

Post#19 » Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:59 pm

how about lowering a warrior's 1hs/1hb/2hs/2hb/piercing skill caps too... cuz I heard before that even if you miss hitting a mob, you can still trigger a proc.

-EDIT-
How about lowering the following warrior skill caps:

Offense (currently at 270)
Weapon (1hb,1hs,etc...currently all at 305)
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Re: SK dps Fail

Post#20 » Sat Jun 12, 2010 1:23 am

Regarding Palladin dishing out way more dmg than SK i dont know why, on the parsing post i only seen 2 Paladins both would consider as near equaly geared.

Andy Top parse was
(With Sune buffs using 1hs: Sword of the Master + 9dmg aug - 99/25)
Vlar on 6/2/2010 in 299sec
Total--- DMG: 257370 (100%) @ 861 dps (861 sdps)
Andy--- DMG: 257370 (100%) @ 861 dps (861 sdps)

While Julius
Julius: Sune Buffs Only
Vlad on 5/21/2010 in 308sec

Total
--- DMG: 480060 (100%) @ 1559 dps (1559 sdps)
--- DMG to PC: 4 @0dps

Julius
--- DMG: 480060 (100%) @ 1559 dps (1559 sdps)
--- DMG to PC: 4 @0dps

So kinda hard to say why he has almost Double the DPS guess i will need parse myself now.
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