Frozen Fiercehand Shroud

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Waor
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Frozen Fiercehand Shroud

Post#1 » Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:56 pm

Can something useful be added instead of a 10 Minute reuse Fade? I have NEVER pulled aggro with dual donators and a handful of other donator items even when a Bard was our tank.

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http://www.thehiddenforest.org/spell.php?id=5243

Something like an extra tick of Earthwalk would be 1 million times more useful.

Thank you.

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Lillu
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Re: Frozen Fiercehand Shroud

Post#2 » Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:15 am

can other monks confirm that FM is completly useless for a monk? btw I'm 100% sure that the purpose of FM isn't to lose/reduce agro while you are in battle..

Waor
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Re: Frozen Fiercehand Shroud

Post#3 » Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:24 am

Lillu wrote:can other monks confirm that FM is completly useless for a monk? btw I'm 100% sure that the purpose of FM isn't to lose/reduce agro while you are in battle..


Than what does it do? The Wizard Spell "Fade" is a Shadowstep.. I just used it an definitely didn't Shadowstep..

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Re: Frozen Fiercehand Shroud

Post#4 » Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:36 am

Fading Memory is a bard ability to lose agro, completly.. like rogue Escape. It's also insta cast. so..

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Re: Frozen Fiercehand Shroud

Post#5 » Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:39 am

Lillu wrote:Fading Memory is a bard ability to lose agro, completly.. like rogue Escape. It's also insta cast. so..


So once every 10 minutes I can clear aggro.. That I'm never pulling.. Just asking that it be looked it. This might be more suited on a Rogue or Zerker who actually might be pulling aggro.

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Re: Frozen Fiercehand Shroud

Post#6 » Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:42 am

you are a monk who never pulls.. then yeah, it's useless for you. and if none of the monks pull, then yep, we have to change the spell..

Falcore
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Re: Frozen Fiercehand Shroud

Post#7 » Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:48 am

It is a very tempermentle ability, for a one click use. Bards can do it because it they can recast it over and over.

As a monk it is useful, but it takes a lot of practice, and zone recognition to actually use it well :?

Since there is a lot of aggro issues and mobs sometimes falling threw the floor. If used incorrectly or at the wrong corner, a one click use will not clear aggro and the mobs will still come. If however you are aware of this and know the corners you can use it in, it can be a lot of fun.

I am not against a change of the clicky, because it is not a sure fire thing for a one click purpose. Maybe if the item stack 3 clicks on top of each other, Bam bam bam more like a bard it would work 8-)

However in outdoor zones where you can clearly see the mobs the item works fine, the aggro issue seems to only occur inside and around corners where you cant see if the mobs are still coming or not.

To be honest it is a clicky I rarely use for pulling, due to its 50/50 effectiveness 8-)
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Re: Frozen Fiercehand Shroud

Post#8 » Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:57 am

Falcore wrote:It is a very tempermentle ability, for a one click use. Bards can do it because it they can recast it over and over.

As a monk it is useful, but it takes a lot of practice, and zone recognition to actually use it well :?

Since there is a lot of aggro issues and mobs sometimes falling threw the floor. If used incorrectly or at the wrong corner, a one click use will not clear aggro and the mobs will still come. If however you are aware of this and know the corners you can use it in, it can be a lot of fun.

I am not against a change of the clicky, because it is not a sure fire thing for a one click purpose. Maybe if the item stack 3 clicks on top of each other, Bam bam bam more like a bard it would work 8-)

However in outdoor zones where you can clearly see the mobs the item works fine, the aggro issue seems to only occur inside and around corners where you cant see if the mobs are still coming or not.

To be honest it is a clicky I rarely use for pulling, due to its 50/50 effectiveness 8-)


See I would have never imagined to use it like this.

Even so; once every 10 minutes? It's just depressing the last useful BP clicky I had on my monk was the Ornate BP with Shield of the Arcane.

Hibbitz
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Re: Frozen Fiercehand Shroud

Post#9 » Mon Jun 14, 2010 1:57 am

We have 2 monks for fear 100% of the time that never get close to pulling aggro, and if they ever do Feign Death is win.

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Re: Frozen Fiercehand Shroud

Post#10 » Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:31 am

It's a pulling tool, not agro management tool.
Item Change -> Reload needed
Spell Change -> Reload AND new Spellfile needed

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