Weird lag issue...

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Jeido
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Weird lag issue...

Post#1 » Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:56 am

Evolution has been experiencing weird lag on raids lately. It seems that we'll be in the middle of a fight, and then sometimes either we all lag, or some of us lag, and it's caused a few wipes TBH.

What happens is the client seems like it loses some connection with the server. Sometimes it attempts to catch back up after a few seconds, but not always. Even when it does try to catch up, it doesn't always succeed. What I experience on Shig, for example, is sometimes something like a small delay on spell casts. Other times I will cast a spell, then my spell bar will be locked for anywhere from 5 seconds to forever, and the spell never actually casts. To fix it I need to relog. On a melee what happens is your attacks stop briefly, or start to register slowly. When the server tries to catch up, your chat window is spammed with all your previous attacks. Other times it just freezes up totally and you no longer see anyone moving, not even yourself, but you can still see the mobs HP dropping. Again, the only way to fix it is to relog. Theirs also occasions where you don't see anyone moving, and the mobs HP doesn't either (even with 100% MS, this happens).

I was hoping you could check this out and see if it's client side (which i doubt but who knows), or server side. So far Magoo, Sarcon, Elessar, Jerant and myself have all experienced this weird lag.
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Kiowa
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Re: Weird lag issue...

Post#2 » Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:45 am

i have asked this a few times in OOC when i first started...figured it was just me on dialup and learned to play around it.

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Post#3 » Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:38 pm

When did I have weird lag? It was a long time ago - at least 2-3 weeks. This last raid when you and Magoo were having a real rough time, I was fine.

Then again, I admit to having a very poor memory so maybe I did have bad lag and just forgot. I seriously have the memory retention of Dory from Finding Nemo.
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Post#4 » Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:06 pm

Magoo and Jeido sharing ISP or at least live east cost too? :) my guess would be some ISP/zone related tempt issue, but once again might be something came with the new revision..if it's something new. let me know if it still occures in the future.

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Post#5 » Sun Aug 30, 2009 4:43 pm

I've also had the same problem, and i'm damn near in canada. comcast cable in washington state.

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Post#6 » Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:06 pm

Oh yeah! I remember when it was - during our last ST key raid which would have been Aug 21. Haven't had any problems since then, but yeah it certainly wasn't regional that day - tested my connection right after with a server in Vajta, Hungary and it was fine.
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Post#7 » Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:40 pm

I use Verizon and I'm in Florida. I'm not sure where Magoo lives, but I know Sarcon is in Washington and he still has it happen. (comcast) Could it be something with the line on your end? It only happens when we have a raid fighting a mob, so possibly all the data from that fight being sent to you is being slowed down or interupted somewhere along the way? This would explain why only some lag out and others don't. It would also explain why once 2 of my toons died on Vulak, my other 3 were fine and weren't lagging anymore.
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Post#8 » Sun Aug 30, 2009 6:42 pm

same problem, washington state USA also ( NW coast) (although its not the server for me since when it happens to me downloads,webpages wont load/download)
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Post#9 » Sun Aug 30, 2009 6:48 pm

Same thing happens to me Sarc, it's weird. When I'm off of EQ I have no issues with my browser, but when the lag happens on EQ then it also slows down my browser (expected). I'm no networking wiz, but it sounds like the server might be trying to compensate by eating up our BW? What's your internet speed? I'm on DSL (850mb/s) so idk why I have issues :\
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Re: Weird lag issue...

Post#10 » Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:33 pm

Hey guys,

This is what I think is happening.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TCP_global_synchronization

Which explains why the problem increases exponentially.

There's no way to know on my end if the server is suffering from this on its connection, our connections are causing it and aggravating it, or if the server code needs a looking into. There's also the issue of traffic shaping which might be active on line the server box sits on.

Just my 2cp!

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