Paladin spells in HoH

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Paladin spells in HoH

Post#1 » Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:38 pm

Am I the only one seeing the massive resist problems with True Command/Sacred Word in HoH? True command basically never lands on anything, and Sacred Word is resist more often than not.

One of the reasons to play a paladin is for the reaactive group healing that our spells can do, because we sure as heck dont do it for our dps :P. However, while farming mobs in HoH neither of these spells are reliable to use. While looking into the spell data both have a Magic resist of -50. Perhaps the simple fix would be to lower the spell to a -100 or -150 so they can land more readily.

I've tried saying a couple Sks to see if they have problems landing their spells, mainly lifetaps, to see if they have a resist problem too. The response I got was if they did get resisted, it wasn't enough to notice.
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Post#2 » Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:05 am

mana flare and kiss of life both get resisted a good deal up there too, and they are -100 and -200. You're not alone, the mobs up there are very resistant to magic. I tried using that Tash proc aug from ssra but it was only like -9 extra sv magic so i went back to another KoL aug in that slot.
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Post#3 » Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:02 pm

Stickybuds wrote:mana flare and kiss of life both get resisted a good deal up there too, and they are -100 and -200. You're not alone, the mobs up there are very resistant to magic. I tried using that Tash proc aug from ssra but it was only like -9 extra sv magic so i went back to another KoL aug in that slot.


But the thing with both of those spells, kiss of life is a weapon proc, mana flare is an extra bit of dmg. True Command/Sacred word is a primary spell line for paladins, and our only aoe stun.
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Post#4 » Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:47 am

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Post#5 » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:16 pm

aabamzen wrote:
our only aoe stun


Not entirely true..

http://www.thehiddenforest.org/webtools/items.php?id=4804


I have those too and they aren't exactly the same. The true command/sacred word line is aoe stun with a heal component, those are just an aoe stun.. SKs get the same on their tov quest legs.
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Post#6 » Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:27 pm

I have also wondered this for a long time just never posted on it but cause its here now..

Both true command and sacred word rk.I-rk.III all have a resist adjust -50 and dont land on anything much past t7 sacred word is kinda IMO an upgrade to true command yet there is no difference same with no difference between sacred word rk.I to rk.III resist wise anyway for sacred word rarely lands on hoh mobs and not at all on nadox mobs :(

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Post#7 » Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:51 am

If the GMs plan on changing the resists based on this thread, then Signet of The Crusader and Hoop of Command recast times should be nerfed! :mrgreen: :lol: :mrgreen: :lol: :mrgreen: :lol: :mrgreen: :lol: :mrgreen: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:


<3 paladins!

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Post#8 » Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:03 pm

Beatboxin wrote:I have also wondered this for a long time just never posted on it but cause its here now..

Both true command and sacred word rk.I-rk.III all have a resist adjust -50 and dont land on anything much past t7 sacred word is kinda IMO an upgrade to true command yet there is no difference same with no difference between sacred word rk.I to rk.III resist wise anyway for sacred word rarely lands on hoh mobs and not at all on nadox mobs :(


maybe that can be something they can do with rk 1 -3... rk.1 -50.. rk.2 -100.. rk.3 -150 or something along those lines?
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Post#9 » Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:05 pm

Palladius wrote:If the GMs plan on changing the resists based on this thread, then Signet of The Crusader and Hoop of Command recast times should be nerfed! :mrgreen: :lol: :mrgreen: :lol: :mrgreen: :lol: :mrgreen: :lol: :mrgreen: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:


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yeah, just look at how uber Palladius is geared compared to Melkor... We know where your loyalties lie!
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Post#10 » Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:06 pm

Palladius was a stud back in the day!

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