Bards & Puretone disc line

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Vaion
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Re: Bards & Puretone disc line

Post#11 » Wed May 01, 2013 4:06 pm

The Tier 8 Evolving BP Focus for Bards now lowers the reuse on Thousand Blades/Perfect Blades.

You will also notice in the next reboot that Thousand Blades/Perfect Blades have been added to the spell ranking system and once you obtain Perfect Blades it will overwrite Thousand Blades in your Disc window.
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Beatboxin
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Re: Bards & Puretone disc line

Post#12 » Thu May 02, 2013 4:17 am

Awesome change thanks sir! ;)

Stickybuds
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Re: Bards & Puretone disc line

Post#13 » Thu May 02, 2013 6:10 am

Fantastic change on the BP focus! I'll try to do some testing with the new minstrels gift tonight (or tomorrow when im off work) and give some feedback. Sadly i only have rank I. I never looted rank 2 since it was broken =p I'll knock out a few names and see if I can get lucky so I can test Rk II as well.


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Re: Bards & Puretone disc line

Post#14 » Thu May 02, 2013 8:36 am

a bit of testing and feedback.

1st i think both the initial cost and the maintain cost are too low. #mystats shows my bard to have 30 base end regen, and another 87 from items. and a total endurance pool over 36.6k. While lower tier geared bard wont have this high of end pool this is a T8 disc. Even a naked bard could keep this going non stop with no effect on using other disc. For a T8 disc feel it should at least slowly drain my end a bit. While it will drain a lower geared bard's end faster, that should be the price to pay of using a T8 disc pre T8 just as the T8 spells have a high mana cost and thus are harder on lower geared casters.

A bit of dps boost feedback
All parses on Atche - T8 parse dummy in the areana
NO buffs, songs, auras.

5min parse no disc - 2340 dps (702,122 dmg)
5min parse with Rk. I - 2495 dps (748,648 dmg)

a few 1min parses
no discs
2413
2302
2648

With Minstrel's Gift Rk. I
2112
2320
2783

With Power of Fear
2390
2914
2648

The reason I wanted to compare this with Power of Fear is this is a common disc clicky most dps have. And while the T6 ring is a 10min CD, the T7 and T8 rings are only a 2min CD. Combine this with a dark focus, and you have have around 80% uptime using the T7/8 version of this clicky ring. I went with 1min parses as this is the base duration for power of fear. Also I understand that Crippling Blows provide more than just dps via stuns and spell interrupts.

This is only a test with Rk. I, which is only 2%. I'll try to get a copy of Rk. II soon and post some data on it as well.
Could someone with Rk. III do a similar test so we can see some data on that?

For anyone looking at these numbers and seeing such small increase and think wut?!? These numbers, and the gaps between them vs no disc and disc, will only get larger and larger the more buffs and debuffs I stack (my last parse on mary with buffs, but no debuffs, was around 42k dps). I felt no buffs would apply to a wider range of players as not everyone has access to every stacking buff and debuff out there.

All and all, very welcome change over the old version =). I do think it could use a tweak to the end cost/drain. And maybe a slight boost in proc chance like 3/5/8 but we def need data on the 2nd and 3rd rank before considering that.

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Firenze
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Re: Bards & Puretone disc line

Post#15 » Thu May 02, 2013 2:53 pm

Great idea to give bards a little dps boost and a disc I will actually use
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Vaion
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Re: Bards & Puretone disc line

Post#16 » Thu May 02, 2013 2:59 pm

Thanks for the feedback. Next "normal" reboot (Wednesday next week) the initial endurance cost will be 500 with the following per second costs: Rk I - 100, Rk II - 125, Rk III - 150.
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