Regarding SK Pets

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zRush
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Regarding SK Pets

Post#1 » Tue May 28, 2013 7:32 am

Hello...

I have having some issues with the T8 SK Pet, Decaying Minion. Its a great addition to my DPS and I would prefer to be able to use it, but some of the side effects are making it a real pain. In Ssra and now ToV it gets lost under the world and pulls everything. The AA pet discipline doesn't appear to work. He just runs in there and starts slapping mobs no matter what I do. Once he has aggro of something, he doesn't appear to respond to pet commands anymore. If I summon him with Summon Companion spell, he will show up at my side, but just run right off again.
Also, whenever I use my Chaotic Platinum Tiara to buff his run speed I get 'Your target is immune to changes in it's run speed'.
I am concerned that I don't see anyone else complaining about this issue. I can't imagine that I am the only one.

While I am here, I have a couple other things. Would it be possible to add SK on the Chaotic Adamantite Band? Actually, it would be nice if it were just all/all if it would work with the WoS pets and Monster Summoning pets.

Is it necessary for the Druid pet and buff spells to take so long to load?

Also, I have a 'Sphere of Encased Flame' on my druid. When it is equipped (all the time atm) all my pet buffs report as "Sphere of Encased Flame (Ready)" and don't show a timer for the actual spell. I have to remove the item from my ear to be able to see what buffs I have and their timers.

I had written down some other things as well, but I can't seem to find the paper atm. But this should keep ya busy for a few :-)

Thanks much for your attention and if I can supply any other info, let me know. Oh, I am using SoD client and I am all up to date as far as I know.

Cheers
R

Oh! I did remember something. Is there any reason that there isn't a augment bird bath in the Vale? It would be SOOOOOO nice if there were! Hint hint.. :-) Thanks!

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zRush
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Hmmm...

Post#2 » Thu May 30, 2013 5:12 am

At 57 views and no responses, I am gonna guess no one else has issues with the SK pet or any of the other things I brought up?

Interesting...

Nevermind

R

Stickybuds
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Re: Regarding SK Pets

Post#3 » Thu May 30, 2013 6:01 am

Well I'll answer some of your questions but I don't know anything about the SK stuff your asking about.

In regards to Chaotic Adamantite Band - you should be able to click this from inventory, i don't see a must equip requirement for Effect: Summon Companion. If your talking about the worn focus Summoning Haste II, I don't see any harm in adding SKs to use this item as it just increases the time it takes to cast your pet summon spell and all the other pet classes can use it. Would be up to the devs to change that.

Is it necessary for the Druid pet and buff spells to take so long to load? - That's how it is for all other pet summon and pet buffs spells for other classes and how it has always been. Just an EQ thing.

There is no bird bath in the Vale (or other major public hub zones) for a few reasons. bird baths can cause a zone crash sometimes, don't want to crash a major public hub. If you leave an item in the bath, you could lose it. While you should never leave items in the bath, I have before while in the guild hall which is an instanced zone, and they were always still there. There used a be a bird bath in HoH but it was removed as it combined with the very high traffic in the zone caused more problems than it was worth having to zone a couple times to augment.

In regards to the issues with Sphere of Encased Flame. Are you saying that all the pet buffs that show in the pet buff window say they are "Sphere of Encased Flame" instead of w/e buffs they actually have such as Redwood Skin or Animal Attunement IV or w/e? I'll try to get one of these and test it with my druid as well.

Hope that is of some help. You'll have to bug someone who plays a SK for your SK questions =)

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Re: Regarding SK Pets

Post#4 » Thu May 30, 2013 2:19 pm

Stickybuds wrote:In regards to the issues with Sphere of Encased Flame. Are you saying that all the pet buffs that show in the pet buff window say they are "Sphere of Encased Flame" instead of w/e buffs they actually have such as Redwood Skin or Animal Attunement IV or w/e? I'll try to get one of these and test it with my druid as well.



This sort of thing happens with Dragon Scaled Earring from ST, as well.
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zRush
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Re: Regarding SK Pets

Post#5 » Thu May 30, 2013 8:01 pm

Thank you for your replies.

As for the Chaotic Adamantite Band, I have to admit I didn't think about trying it from inventory. It does work, thanks for the tip. I was only concerned with using the Pet Summon clicky, not the focus. However, for ease of use and since all other pet classes are represented on it for use, is it possible to add SK or perhaps just make it all/all?

Regarding the Augment Bird Bath, I did not know this issue existed but now that I do, the reasons certainly make sense. Too bad, it would be very convenient to have a bath in the Vale.

As for the pet and buff spells. I am referring to how long it takes for the spell gem to refresh once mem'd, if that wasn't clear. And there is a considerable difference between some pet classes and others for this timer. The fact that druids never got a pet like they do here, kinda invalidates the 'it's always been that way' theory. I know what you are talking about as far as an EQ thing, doesn't mean it has to stay that way. Anyway, it was a request. If it can't be done, it can't be done. No worries. Just thought I would bring it up. I know the Shaman pet spell has a very long refresh as well. And, it would be really nice to see Shaman get a new pet, too. But again.. just a request.

On the 'Sphere of Encased Flame' situation.. yes, all the pet buffs in the pet window say "Sphere of Encased Flame (Ready)". I also noticed last night that the song/temp buff window on my toon also report this instead of the actual buff and the time left.

Unfortunately, my main concerns.. the SK pet issues, have not been addressed at all. It would be nice if other Sk's would chime in here, at least to let me know whether they are experiencing the same thing or not..

Thanks

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Re: Regarding SK Pets

Post#6 » Thu May 30, 2013 8:24 pm

zRush wrote:Hello...

I have having some issues with the T8 SK Pet, Decaying Minion. Its a great addition to my DPS and I would prefer to be able to use it, but some of the side effects are making it a real pain. In Ssra and now ToV it gets lost under the world and pulls everything. The AA pet discipline doesn't appear to work. He just runs in there and starts slapping mobs no matter what I do. Once he has aggro of something, he doesn't appear to respond to pet commands anymore. If I summon him with Summon Companion spell, he will show up at my side, but just run right off again.


I've used the t8 pet all of once on my SK. I'll run some /pet hold tests on the pet in a bit.

*edit* tested pet out. /pet hold and /pet focus seem to be working just fine. Sent pet to attack mob1, did a pet hold and he came right back to me. told him to attack mob2, ran to it beat on it then came back to me.
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Re: Regarding SK Pets

Post#7 » Fri May 31, 2013 4:48 pm

Thanks Nilbus.. I appreciate you taking the time to check this. Couple of things.. just out of curiosity, why is it that you don't use the pet? I know I rarely see any SK's running around with their pet, but considering it does a serious amount of damage compared to my dps, why wouldn't you?
My pet issue occurred again last night in TOV. Seems that if I pull, and forget to put pet hold on first and the pet runs in while I am trying to bring the mob back to my group the mob will stop to deal with my pet. If I then try to hit pet hold, the pet will run off underground taking the mob with him. And will not respond to any commands. Well, once said pet is dead.. all the mobs he has aggroed now come straight for me. Fun Fun!

Update on the 'Sphere of Encased Flame' issue. I noticed last evening that the buffs on anyone I target also report the 'Sphere' ready line. Kinda makes it hard to tell what is what for a buff class.

Thanks for any help..
R

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Nilbus
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Re: Regarding SK Pets

Post#8 » Fri May 31, 2013 5:16 pm

I never use it cause it parses at 1k dps with rank2 buffs and rank3 pet toys. Not worth the annoyance of keepign it held and guarded while I pull mobs.

As for the flame issue. Are you using any third party programs? Might be a side effect of that.
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Stickybuds
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Re: Regarding SK Pets

Post#9 » Fri May 31, 2013 6:00 pm

I havent been able to reproduce the buff icon error where all the buffs are named Sphere of Encased Flame instead of the real names. I'm kinda at a loss, never heard of something like that before and no idea what could be causing it. I'm pretty new to mq2 and anything else 3rd party for EQ though so hopefully someone else can shed some light on that.

Do you get the issues when loading a bane bone client of EQ (no 3rd party addons)


The T8 SK pet is far better than any of their previous pets by a large margin, however it is still a SK pet, and SK pets have never been very good. As Nilbus said its only around 1-2k dps which isnt much. It's a great addition of dps for a soloing SK but prob more hassle than its worth for raiding.

I have a draekon pet and while its a bit more dps than the SK ones I almost never bring it out when raiding. It is always out when im doing my own thing though.

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zRush
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Re: Regarding SK Pets

Post#10 » Fri May 31, 2013 6:41 pm

Hey guys...
Thanks again for the responses. I checked the buff issue without mw2 loaded and, Viola! It does appear to be related to this. I load the client without mq2, no buff issue.. I load mq2 while the client is still loaded and it immediately shows the buff problem. So.. I would consider this a closed issue. I certainly don't expect the devs here to address it. Although it most certainly is something to do with that particular item and at least one other...

"This sort of thing happens with Dragon Scaled Earring from ST, as well." - TheBloodmoon

As for the pet.. I can certainly see what you mean about it being more trouble than it is worth, but at my current gear/tier level I can use every ounce of muscle I can muster. Other than my Ares shield, I am not sporting any other donor gear and am only geared to the level of the tier I am currently raiding (ToV).

I guess the devs aren't going to make any comments on this thread, so I will thank those of you who have and consider this done.

Cheers
R

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