new pet parse

[Noren]

The following is pure speculation from my own observation:

I suspect the T8 dummy has ludicrously high AC. Higher than any raid boss I've encountered. Melee players consistently do very low dmg against this dummy. If my observations ring any truth, then the T8 dummy is far from an accurate representation of class balancing.

The pets, in particular, would stand out in this scenario (and they do) because they have vastly more ATTK than players. ATTK that high can overcome absurdly high AC, and thus pets do the same dmg vs the T8 dummy as they do against any boss.

As for your int casters... your wizards are doing shockingly low dmg. Non-donor with full raid buffs/debuffs, I can get a consistent 40-45k dps from mine against a dummy. Maybe your wiz didn't have enchanter buffs & bard songs.

A good time to revive viewtopic.php?f=30&t=9882 ! I haven't updated what I do on that post in quite some time.

[yaeger]

That said, with Shaman BP rogue will jump ahead of mage donor pet. <3 the BP.

Yeah, out of all the classes Rogue performs the best ever since the backstab changes. Which is to be expected. However for ease of use and sustained dps I think it might be a tossup.

More to the point, the consistantly low parses from the other dps classes cannot compare with donor mage pet.

Ideally, Mage+Pet dps should be about equal to ranger/monk/necro+pet/beast+pet, and be slightly edged out by rogue, zerker, wizard. I don't think that's been the case for a while now evidenced in part by the explosive popularity of pet classes. I'd like to know, purely curious, what the most popular Donor BPs are, and what classes people are more likely to buy them for.

[Nilbus]

The following is pure speculation from my own observation:

I suspect the T8 dummy has ludicrously high AC. Higher than any raid boss I've encountered. Melee players consistently do very low dmg against this dummy. If my observations ring any truth, then the T8 dummy is far from an accurate representation of class balancing.

The pets, in particular, would stand out in this scenario (and they do) because they have vastly more ATTK than players. ATTK that high can overcome absurdly high AC, and thus pets do the same dmg vs the T8 dummy as they do against any boss.

This makes sense. I have a few parses of the rogue versus t8 and t9 raid bosses and they do much better there.

As for your int casters... your wizards are doing shockingly low dmg. Non-donor with full raid buffs/debuffs, I can get a consistent 40-45k dps from mine against a dummy. Maybe your wiz didn't have enchanter buffs & bard songs.

A good time to revive viewtopic.php?f=30&t=9882 ! I haven't updated what I do on that post in quite some time.

Wizards get rank 1 bard song and during burn will get the ench rk2 group spell dmg buff. Wizards are mainly using rk2 instants, chaotic destruction, tactical fire and epic 2.0 click

[Nilbus]

Int casters nuking



Nilbus and Tiah have rk2 slayers, aura of the guardian, Aura of the warlock, aura of the glyph wielder. Insight rk 2, glad 3, inferno 2. blessing of hope 3, illusion dark sage. And for burn add Visions of power rk2, prism of melody and dreamwalker

Wizards have Dark sage, blessing 3, inferno 2, glad 3, slayers 1, aura of glyph wielder, insight 2. Burn adds visions of power 2, sorcerer's Veil Rk 2, spirit of vesagran. Donor v2 buff from familiar.

debuffs - malsoin 3, wrath of phantasmist IV, Overpowering power 2, phantasmist's secret
burn adds - Fury of nature, Vision of Physis (no druid 2.0 as my druids seems to have disappeared...)

[Sian]

Casters will do way more damage with I believe Aura of the bloodmage.
Do they have the poair pauldrons that adds brillance of might II as a buff ? What clickies ?

Wiz are ahead in dps but we have to take those numbers with care because wiz will do more dmg with prism of melody, dreamwalker, slayers rk3 (instead of rk2 for mage necro).

I guess they don't have donor if it wasn't mentionned.

P.S : Turned out into something not a pet parse and my questions are making it even more out of topic haha.

P.P.S : Thanks for the parse btw

[conradd]

Wiz are ahead in dps

Just to be sure, Wiz are the top caster DPS or the top overall class DPS ?

[Safiya]

Wiz are ahead in dps

Just to be sure, Wiz are the top caster DPS or the top overall class DPS ?

Curious about this myself. Not too sure where wizards stand anymore. They're one trick ponies(DPS) but from the info I see here and in other threads....they do not stand out in that role. Doing a bit better than pet classes in nuking is...not enough. Perhaps I am mistaken.

It's a bit off topic though I think.

[PKinternet]

Average of two attempts at T1 dummy - 3 min duration.



Pet classes is a combination of the Pet and Spells.

[Alulien]

Man, that damage reduction vs. rooted mobs sure does a number to the Ranger... sad that its donor bow gets outdamaged by a non-donored Bard.

[Nilbus]

I don't care how donor'd warrior should NEVER outdamage a non Knight. And yeah the rooting kills the ranger DPS.

Wonder how much work it would be to instead make them tethered to a very small range so that rangers can get accurate parses on dummies.