Backstab

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Vilify
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Backstab

Post#1 » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:38 pm

Damage dropped from 8-900 to 600 and under, with disc from 1500 to 1k is this permanent?

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Tyler
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Re: Backstab

Post#2 » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:48 pm

Well according to the patch notes backstab damage calculation has been redone. I haven't had a chance yet to verify how this works out.

Best would be if someone could do some parses and post them here (screenshot etc) so we see how classes work out and then we can look at adjusting weapons etc to balance each class.

Imo Rog and Zerker should be king of DPS (next to Wizards etc).
Item Change -> Reload needed
Spell Change -> Reload AND new Spellfile needed

striat
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Re: Backstab

Post#3 » Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:36 pm

This is a top priority for me at the moment.

Vilify
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Re: Backstab

Post#4 » Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:26 pm

striat wrote:This is a top priority for me at the moment.


Awesome.

DJani
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Re: Backstab

Post#5 » Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:38 am

Another damage nerf to rogues...

Seems like every "update" they do Rogues get worse and worse. They used to rival Monks in DPS, but we cant have that now can we?

Thanks Starit, hopefully this server will have something besides monks that can do some damage.
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Tyler
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Re: Backstab

Post#6 » Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:32 pm

List rogue weapons please - i'll add +BS damage to them as temp fix.

Rog 1.5 +75
Fierce pierce of the Scarab + 50
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Spell Change -> Reload AND new Spellfile needed

Ienjoypie
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Re: Backstab

Post#7 » Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:42 pm

List of all the daggers I can think of off the top of my head:

Willsapper
Ragebringer
Chaotic Serrated Bone Dirk
Fierce Piercer of the Scarab
Ancient Tool of the Thieves
Bloodbath

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Tyler
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Re: Backstab

Post#8 » Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:59 pm

Ienjoypie wrote:List of all the daggers I can think of off the top of my head:

Willsapper - untouched, no rogue with half a brain would use that for BS :)
Ragebringer + 15
Chaotic Serrated Bone Dirk +25
Fierce Piercer of the Scarab +50
Ancient Tool of the Thieves +75
Bloodbath +50
Item Change -> Reload needed
Spell Change -> Reload AND new Spellfile needed

striat
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Re: Backstab

Post#9 » Sat Jun 27, 2009 10:55 pm

After several tests, I noticed rogues putting out HIGHER backstab damage than before, so I'm not sure about this data.

I'll run a few more tests. Yes, the 600 with around a 20dmg piercer sounds about right. The 800-900 before I am struggling to reproduce.

EDIT : Okay, They had part of the formula hidden :x . From my understand, rogue dps is high, but I'll look into tweaking the backstab formula a tad.

Vilify
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Re: Backstab

Post#10 » Sun Jun 28, 2009 2:55 pm

I was and still am using Chaotic Serrated Bone Dirk =x

Wouldn't mind even seeing the reuse time cut back a tiny bit? Just a thought.

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