Warrior donator weapon proc

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Harney
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Warrior donator weapon proc

Post#1 » Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:46 am

The shadowknights get a lifetap over time
Paladins get a random DD that heals the group for what it procs
Rogues get a 450dd and -150dd hate proc

Warriors get swarm pets... It would seem that most every other class has an effect that plays in directly to the role of the class.

Warriors are tanks, tanks require aggro to tank, we aren't dps.

I would like to suggest that the proc be changed to a 200dd +650 hate proc (the amount of hate generated by the proc: anger ), far less than the 450dd of the rogues, but that's fine because we aren't a dps class.

It still gives us some dps ( what the swarm pets serve as ) but it gives us what warriors really want, which is aggro.

Thank you for your consideration,
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Tyler
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Re: Warrior donator weapon proc

Post#2 » Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:06 am

Agreed - will look into this!
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Tyler
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Re: Warrior donator weapon proc

Post#3 » Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:16 am

You will enjoy the change! Anyways, you will need a new spellfile for this. It's already uploaded but we will also require a reload.
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Jeido
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Re: Warrior donator weapon proc

Post#4 » Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:44 pm

I think he meant the actually clicky, not the proc itself. Personally I think swarm pets are a fun idea, but I agree that they dont help a warrior play their own role as other class clicky effects do. Especially since they're only lvl 55, that makes them useless at 70 when almost all mobs AE and they would be 1 shotted easily.

I don't think it should be replaced with an anger proc either, though. There is such a thing as too much aggro, afterall. If you were to have a donator weapon buff + any weapon combination then no other warrior at your gear level could peal aggro off of you. This may seem good, but it would make tank switching near impossible. You could just not use the buff, but doesn't that defeat its purpose?

I think swarm pet is probably the best clicky, either that or a buff that increases max HP/AC to improve our tanking ability. I can't help but hate the fragileness of the pets though, as they'd be near useless on any big mobs. They only have 1HP, they'd die to any hit (riposte, ramp, whatever) so would it be possible to make them magic immune?
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Tyler
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Re: Warrior donator weapon proc

Post#5 » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:06 pm

would like to suggest that the proc be changed to a 200dd +650 hate proc (the amount of hate generated by the proc: anger ), far less than the 450dd of the rogues, but that's fine because we aren't a dps class


I think Harney was asking for a new proc ;)

The Swarmpets have such low hp so they are not used for tanking. Remember they proc at lev1 (Lev1 proc'ing 55 pets is already quite powerful) But in the end, this weapon has to be balanced at lev70, i agree.

1 hp is probably a bit too less, making them immune to magic is an option.

Let's get more feedback from the actually owners of this weapon before i do anything else.
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Harney
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Re: Warrior donator weapon proc

Post#6 » Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:40 am

Was asking for a new clicky proc, sorry I was unclear in my original post. The swarm pets don't play in to a warrior's role at all, I understand that they might help you level if you get this weapon early on, but the proc feels a bit weak at 70, we aren't dps, we are tanks. Was looking for a clicky that would help us tank.
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Re: Warrior donator weapon proc

Post#7 » Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:28 am

Ok then we can change the click to imbue your weapon with Dominating Anger.
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Re: Warrior donator weapon proc

Post#8 » Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:38 am

Proc is Chaotic Strike V now, click imbues your weapon with Dominating Anger.

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Re: Warrior donator weapon proc

Post#9 » Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:55 pm

Tyler wrote:Proc is Chaotic Strike V now, click imbues your weapon with Dominating Anger.

New spellfile for this is released, new the server to reload.



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Harney
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Re: Warrior donator weapon proc

Post#10 » Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:47 am

The proc seems to be working fine, I'm holding aggro well with the weapons, my only gripe would be that the proc only lasts 3.0 minutes, would it be asking too much to make this a long duration buff? It has no recast, it sucks to forget to click it before a fight ( and then not have the proc ) or have it wear off during a fight and not be able to refresh it.

Thanks much

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