Drunder gladiators don't spawn

[Lillu]

I'm a bit lost with this one. I looked into it and there were no more NPC in the database back in 2013 February than today with partial "gladiator" name (I actually restored a 2013 backup to check it out). Do you know by chance the exact NPC names that are missing? Maybe they were live sever NPCs?

[Ydiss]

I can't remember exactly but going by the naming convention used for the other NPCs, I'd say it would have been "a zek gladiator". They were ogre models, there were two in the named room and approximately 8-10 in the room with the red canal.

It may be that we originally completed the spell quests way back before 2014. If I'm not mistaken, we initially did the zone, got the spells, but didn't go on to actually do the instances for Vallon/Tallon/Rallos until much later. But I don't recall noticing the gladiators missing when we handed the blood raven quest in (it's the same room), which would have been after we killed Rallos, which was in 2014.

It's definitely odd. Even ignoring our own memory of these NPCs, the Wiki acknowledges that they existed and links to the items they dropped. The wiki entry was initially created in December 2012 by Noren.

It definitely looks weird having a single PH all on itself in that room with a wide ooen, empty room outside of it.

[peterigz]

It's a conspiracy, the trolls killed them and are trying to cover it up!

I found an old log file, here's a screenshot from gameparse with the missing mobs in question "A Zek Gladiator" along with the time/date they were killed. Also just for reference the area on the map where they usually are.

[peterigz]

Maybe this is the guilty server update, something about mob removals from the zone? viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12915&hilit=Tactics

[Ydiss]

It certainly fits the time line.

[Lillu]

Thanks to everyone helping out with this mystery. I managed to dig 2014 backups and bring some lost friends back to life..

[peterigz]

Good work will check them out later.

[Ydiss]

Thanks, Lillu

[Nilbus]

I just popped in to Tactics - that area is still empty (although the named for the kill quest is up)

[Lillu]

I just popped in to Tactics - that area is still empty (although the named for the kill quest is up)

Which area? They were originally located before the boar area and I see them up there as we speak. There are also 3 static spawns near "a substitue", past the area where Golgoth the Blood Raven is. There must be one more small area populated with them. 24 spawn groups with 55 spawn entries were recovered. Anything else I possibly missed?