Citadel of the Worldslayer

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Citadel of the Worldslayer

Post#1 » Sat Dec 22, 2018 3:33 am

The graphics and quality of the new release are great! I look forward to more ... THF evolving to a new stage!
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Re: Citadel of the Worldslayer

Post#2 » Sat Dec 22, 2018 9:45 am

Thanks Rafe! Glad you like it.

This was the first content I've ever put together for EQ so I'm still learning but the next chapters will definitely follow a similar, story-based theme within the same EQ era. But I intend to spend more time focusing on creating compelling events and sequences (and puzzles!) for you to enjoy (and less time learning how everything is done ;)) this time.

The story itself has been written out on paper and I'm quite pleased with how it will develop, I'm pretty excited to put it all together. I've already made a lot of headway with the next chapter (before designing items I need to understand what types of items will fit in to and compliment the existing content, but that's now done).

I'm having a break over Christmas of course but will be back on it in the New Year.

Ghillie's story doesn't end here ;)

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Re: Citadel of the Worldslayer

Post#3 » Sat Dec 22, 2018 5:01 pm

Bit of feedback, the mage clicky gloves are well, useless. The bard gets a song better than rk3 spell, and beast gets an extra dmg click. Maybe change mage one to be a clicky DS if you don't want it to be a nuke.
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Re: Citadel of the Worldslayer

Post#4 » Sat Dec 22, 2018 5:31 pm

Nilbus wrote:Bit of feedback, the mage clicky gloves are well, useless. The bard gets a song better than rk3 spell, and beast gets an extra dmg click. Maybe change mage one to be a clicky DS if you don't want it to be a nuke.


Thanks Nilbus, just keep in mind the zone is T7 difficulty and rewards should be in line with that. This zone is part of the gear evolution to beat T8+ zones. That being said if any of items or effects are obsolete or "useless" at T7 level then we'll definitely look into it. Thanks again!

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Re: Citadel of the Worldslayer

Post#5 » Sat Dec 22, 2018 5:40 pm

Lillu wrote:
Nilbus wrote:Bit of feedback, the mage clicky gloves are well, useless. The bard gets a song better than rk3 spell, and beast gets an extra dmg click. Maybe change mage one to be a clicky DS if you don't want it to be a nuke.


Thanks Nilbus, just keep in mind the zone is T7 difficulty and rewards should be in line with that. This zone is part of the gear evolution to beat T8+ zones. That being said if any of items or effects are obsolete or "useless" at T7 level then we'll definitely look into it. Thanks again!


To clarify, the mage clicky is a mana regen of 7 and a small rune that damages pet, the bard click is spell dmg focus and overhaste that is slightly better than the rk3 spell of the same type. The bst gets a nuke click for 2300 dmg with 10 sec recast. Even accounting for it being t7, that is underwhelming compared to the other 2 clicks available in the zone. Either the mage spell should be in some way better than a t8 rk3 spell like the bard, or the bard one should be adjusted down to t7 level
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Re: Citadel of the Worldslayer

Post#6 » Sat Dec 22, 2018 5:44 pm

Nilbus wrote:To clarify, the mage clicky is a mana regen of 7 and a small rune that damages pet, the bard click is spell dmg focus and overhaste that is slightly better than the rk3 spell of the same type. The bst gets a nuke click for 2300 dmg with 10 sec recast. Even accounting for it being t7, that is underwhelming compared to the other 2 clicks available in the zone. Either the mage spell should be in some way better than a t8 rk3 spell like the bard, or the bard one should be adjusted down to t7 level


Fair enough Sir, I think Ydiss will balance it out based on this feedback. Thanks again. <3

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Re: Citadel of the Worldslayer

Post#7 » Sat Dec 22, 2018 6:16 pm

Thanks for the feedback. The bard click was supposed to have a 10 minute recast and I've changed earlier today on our end; the change will apply on the next reboot. It definitely wasn't intended to be better than t8/9 ;) That said, the majority of bard clicks in my experience aren't worth breaking twist for so I wanted this one to give a nice 18 second boost to dps once every 10 minutes.

Elemental simulcram is 20 mana regen I believe. I use it on my mage all the time and it stacks. Definitely less useful for a t9 mage (I wouldn't bother using it then) but still useful I think for t6/7, which this zone is intended for (can't stress that enough, this definitely won't pose a challenge to anyone who is at the end game right now).

The beastlord spell isn't amazing but the click lets you use it more frequently than the spell. So it's free dps, albeit small (but not horrible for t6/7).

The clicks in cotw should be similar to the other 12 or so class based items you can get in dsk. They're intended to let you replace a spell slot for a moderately useful spell. If you look at them all, most of the clicks aren't amazing, probably the only one that's really great is the paladin one, as it lets you cast an aoe taunt spell from the item.

Adding these items was just a matter of completeness, really, so using existing spells roughly the same range as the other items.

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Re: Citadel of the Worldslayer

Post#8 » Sat Dec 22, 2018 6:22 pm

Ydiss wrote:Thanks for the feedback. The bard click was supposed to have a 10 minute recast and I've changed earlier today on our end; the change will apply on the next reboot. It definitely wasn't intended to be better than t8/9 ;) That said, the majority of bard clicks in my experience aren't worth breaking twist for so I wanted this one to give a nice 18 second boost to dps once every 10 minutes.

Elemental simulcram is 20 mana regen I believe. I use it on my mage all the time and it stacks. Definitely less useful for a t9 mage (I wouldn't bother using it then) but still useful I think for t6/7, which this zone is intended for (can't stress that enough, this definitely won't pose a challenge to anyone who is at the end game right now).

The beastlord spell isn't amazing but the click lets you use it more frequently than the spell. So it's free dps, albeit small (but not horrible for t6/7).

The clicks in cotw should be similar to the other 12 or so class based items you can get in dsk. They're intended to let you replace a spell slot for a moderately useful spell. If you look at them all, most of the clicks aren't amazing, probably the only one that's really great is the paladin one, as it lets you cast an aoe taunt spell from the item.

Adding these items was just a matter of completeness, really, so using existing spells roughly the same range as the other items.


Okay, a 10 min cooldown on the bard item removes my main issue that they get a better than rk3 spell :D Looking forward to more in this line of content
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Re: Citadel of the Worldslayer

Post#9 » Sun Dec 23, 2018 4:55 pm

Nice to tweak things up...but, I think the important point is that content is moving forward in an artistic and methodical way. My view of the current Citadel is that it is pretty similar in difficulty to Sol Ro. Eventually I'd love to see it scale up but great to see things grow and evolve. Perhaps there could be some goodies that all of us could use, something like the Fordel Gems and Rallos Sharpeners.
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Re: Citadel of the Worldslayer

Post#10 » Sun Dec 23, 2018 5:44 pm

I agree with Rafe - the content is beautiful, and I love the augment drops. I feel they really help with the extreme gap from t7 to t8 in terms of augments available (specifically the HoH augments).

Fordel Gem, Rallos Sharpener, or kill quest would be nice to see similar in the zone. I personally love the evolve system introduced by HoH, waiting for similar to come back :P but I won't push that topic.
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