Frozen Whispering Tunic (Rogue ToV BP)

[Tyler]

Actually i need DPS numbers to decide what effect and to what magnitude it should go on so what i really need is DPS numbers.

[Jeido]

I was able to get a few parses on our ToV raid last night, here's some numbers.

Nir`Tan:

Monkz (2.5, emp weap) = 1140 DPS

Hans (2 ToV weapons) = 1050 DPS

Billaski (2.0, ToV weap) = 988 DPS

Ienjoypie (2.0, ToV weapon) = 853 DPS


Aaryonar:

Monkz - 1080 DPS

Hans - 901 DPS

Ienjoypie - 607 DPS

Billaski - 430 DPS

Feshlak:

Monkz - 1033 DPS

Billaski - 856 DPS

Hans - 786 DPS

Sarcon -- 733 DPS (wtf? lol)

Ienjoypie -- 583 DPS


All of these parses were done by Jeido, so none include spell procs from these players.

[Tyler]

Hm, so from that parse it says that monk with 2.5 is better than rog with ToV Weapons.

That sounds fine with me.

Don't want to upgrade Rogues too much if everything is as close. Does any Rogue already have 2.5 etc?

[Koeril]

Last night was the first time in awhile where I wasn't in the CH chain and was patching. This meant I was spending more time coordinating my discs and getting more backstabs in.

I'm DPSing pretty high so I think the 2.0 and even 2.5 would push me up high enough to compete with Monkz. Currently my backstabs use a 35+6(+2 disease) = 41(+2 disease) base to backstab with. A 2.5 could potentially reach 44+4+6+4 = 58 base so the backstab damage would be significantly higher.

No offense against Pie, but I don't think we can use his parses. I'm 2-boxing and parsing higher than him by quite a bit. His base damage for backstabs is higher, his ratios on both weapons is higher too.

Hans combined DPS: 2737
Pie combined DPS: 2043
2737-2043=693/3=231.33

Therefore Hans averaged 231 DPS more on each of those fights. The only thing I could think of is maybe our buffs were different, but they shouldn't have been really as all those fights were close to the entrance.

Currently I am pleased with the parses I am seeing and the numbers are hopeful. All I need to get my 2.0 is 2 more tear shards so I can give more data once this happens.

[Jeido]

Wanted to add to this. Rogue 1.5/2.0 effects don't work either so yeah...theyve been shafted on clicks pretty much with the exception of the ToV legs. Here's a link to the 2.0 clicky, note that the add proc effect doesn't work either. http://thehiddenforest.dyndns.org/spell.php?id=6272

On live the epic 2.0 click increased triple backstab chance by (45), and the proc increased skill damage taken by (10) on that target.

[Tyler]

Ok, are you saying the proc is not going off or the proc is useless as its not working?

As dirty fix i could add a high dps proc (since short duration) or something.

[Tyler]

Rog 1.5 now will proc Lure of Frost and 15% dmg modifier
Rog 2.0 now will proc Lure of Ice and 20% dmg modifier.

Actually im surprised that no one mentioned this yet (if someone did and i missed it, shame on me). Epics should work and make you more powerful - it's a long and hardcore quest.

[Koeril]

Been a couple days and a few reboots since this was posted. When a we expect this change? I'm eagerly awaiting it to see if I want to go back to my 1.5.

[Jeido]

Rog 1.5 now will proc Lure of Frost and 15% dmg modifier
Rog 2.0 now will proc Lure of Ice and 20% dmg modifier.

Actually im surprised that no one mentioned this yet (if someone did and i missed it, shame on me). Epics should work and make you more powerful - it's a long and hardcore quest.

Rogue 2.0 epic click wasn't increasing the dmg for Ienjoypie the other day, and there was no nuke proc ><

[Tyler]

Ok, id had a typo in the proc id. It's fixed now, will require reload etc. As far as damage increase goes... IF we get the Bard epic to work, then i have a solution for this, too.