GUIDE; FIXED - fps/lag/gfx/Frame Shutter issues in Forest.

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Nimbusser
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GUIDE; FIXED - fps/lag/gfx/Frame Shutter issues in Forest.

Post#1 » Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:26 am

Hello Everyone and well met.

Recently I have noticed a great influx of complaints pertaining to lag/fps issues in the Forest (and other zones). I had a bit of free time and decided to write this tutorial on the solution(s) to this issue. I have assisted quite a lot of players with this issue; resolving it 100% of the time thus far.

- If Lillu's post http://www.thehiddenforest.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=13605 does NOT solve your fps/lag/shuttering issue, please try these steps provided herein and lighten the load on Lillu's shoulders. This, in all accounts I have dealt with, is a Client-Side (your side) issue and in no-way an issue on Lillu's end. I would like to make clear that all of the following resolutions are acute calculated conflict/resolution scenarios and not some shot-in-the-dark guess.

NOTE:Please complete the resolutions in the order written then test your results in-game (Without Third Party programs such as MQ2 running) after each resolution. (for example if Resolution #1 fixes the issue, you may cease advancing to any further resolution steps.)

Let's get started. There are 3 (3.5?) potential causes/resolutions to the problem that I have discovered and we will start with the most common.

ISSUE/RESOLUTION #1: DirectX Compatibility/Missing DLLs
(Even if you have DirectX 11, 12 or whatever 'newest' DirectX update you wish to attest is already better, complete this step anyway as it contains "essential" DLL's for correct EverQuest Functionality)

Please use the following link and click 'Download' in the center of page to download 'DirectX9.0c Redistributable End-User Runtime' then follow the step by step tutorial as I have written it.

DirectX9.0c Redistributable: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=8109


- THE FOLLOWING ARE THE STEPS NEEDED FOR SAFE INSTALLATION OF 'DirectX9.0c Redist' WITHOUT ERRORS OR CORRUPTION -

(please follow all steps as they are written)


*(ALL STEPS AND APPLICATION DATA ARE PROVIDED TO YOU ON AN 'At-Your-Own-Risk' BASIS!)*



***It is recommended that you temporarily disable your Anti-Virus and/or Windows Defender during this process to prevent installation issues. PLEASE NOTE; Disabling Anti-Virus software and/or Windows Defender leaves your PC more vulnerable to cyber attacks and other threats. Do so at your own risk.***

STEP 1.) Create a 'New Folder' on your Desktop (or wherever you'd prefer) for easy access.
(Note: you will delete Folder and Contents afterward)

STEP 2.) Right-Click the 'directx_Jun2010_redist.exe' installer you have just downloaded and select 'Run as Administrator'
(When prompted 'Do you want to allow this app to make changes to your device?' (JUN10 DXSDK REDIST) Select 'Yes')

STEP 3.) READ the 'DirectX June 2010 SDK License Agreement' using PAGE DOWN key or Mouse Scroll Wheel to scroll through the agreement.
(If you 'agree' to the terms therein please click 'Yes' at the bottom of the window)
*(If you 'DO NOT' agree to the terms please click 'No' and discontinue any further proceedings in this tutorial)*

STEP 4.) You will now be prompted to select a location for file extraction. Select 'Browse' then scroll to and select the 'New Folder' you created in 'STEP 1.' Now click 'Ok'.
(You may briefly see a progress window appear as the installer extracts the corresponding files to your chosen location)

STEP 5.) Once extraction has finished please go-to your 'New Folder' and open it. Locate the 'DXSETUP.exe' (if file extensions are hidden it will appear as 'DXSETUP' with a file type of 'Application') Right-Click and select 'Run as Administrator'.
(When prompted 'Do you want to allow this app to make changes to your device?' (DirectX SDK) Select 'Yes')

STEP 6.) AGAIN you will be prompted with a software license agreement, select 'I accept the agreement' (or 'I don't accept the agreement') based upon advice given in 'STEP 3.' Select 'Next >' to continue (or cancel to cease proceeding). To start installation of DirectX Runtime components click 'Next >' again.
(The installer will begin installing necessary DirectX9.0c End-User Runtime Redistributable components; NOTE: ALL APPLICABLE COMPONENTS WILL BE INSTALLED TO THEIR APPROPRIATE DIRECTORY(IES) WITHOUT ADDITIONAL USER (you) INPUT!)

STEP 7.) A final Window should indicate 'Installation Complete'. Click 'Finish'

STEP 8.) Close any windows that remain(ed) open from this tutorial process. Go-to; Desktop (or chosen 'New Folder' location) and delete the 'New Folder' with all of it's contents.

NOTE: DO NOT forget to turn on AntiVirus/Windows Defender Security Application Services again!

**You may now choose to store the provided DirectX 9.0c Redist Application and this Tutorial on your PC or Removable Media or safe keeping or discard it at your leisure**




ISSUE/RESOLUTION #2: EQClient.ini Corrupt/Incompatible

(Often times after a fresh installation of EverQuest, Windows etc we (Myself Included) like to copy our UI's and EQClient.ini to the new installation. Issue is, it often has compatibility issues or corruption)

STEP 1.) Locate/follow your path-to your EverQuestTHF installation. (Example; C:\Program Files (x86)\Everquest )

STEP 2.) Locate your 'eqclient.ini' in the root of the folder. Using search may help. (NOTE: If known file extensions are hidden it may just show as 'eqclient' with a file type of 'Configuration settings') Make a copy of this file to a safe location (I like to put it on my Desktop) then DELETE the 'eqclient.ini' from your EverquestTHF folder.
(Alternatively one could just 'Cut" and 'Paste' the file to a new location.)

STEP 3.) Load EverQuestTHF and see if the preceding has resolved the lag/shuttering issue. If it has you may delete that backup of your 'eqclient.ini' as the loader will have automatically compiled a new one in your EverQuestTHF directory.
(NOTE: YOU WILL NEED TO READJUST VIDEO AND/OR UI SETTINGS AGAIN. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO COPY THEM FROM OLD .INI)

STEP 3.5.) If this DID NOT resolve lag/shuttering issues, you may choose to replace the newly compiled 'eqclient.ini' with the original you made a backup of.




ISSUE/RESOLUTION #3: GPU Driver(s)

(This one is straightforward but can be tricky as each system is different; I can not provide a proper step-by-step explanation of conflict/resolution. However I will do my best to make a few focal points)

STEP 1.) If you have an Expansion Slot GFX Card (i.e.: PCI, PCIE, AGP) you may wish to apply a fresh install of drivers and updates from your provided Driver Media (Disk Typically) supplied with the Card. Alternatively (Or if your GPU is integrated and/or provided without media) you could download the latest drivers from the Manufacturer's/Brand's website.

STEP 2.) *ONLY IF 'STEP 1.)' is NOT A VIABLE OPTION as Windows update tends to be the #1 problem with Graphics Driver(s) issues*
Allow Windows to check for newest drivers by;
- Right-Click 'START'
- Select 'Device Manager'
- Expand 'Display Adapters'
- Right-Click 'Your Listed Video Card Here'
- Select 'Update Driver Software'
- When prompted 'How do you want to search for driver software?' Select - 'Search automatically for updated driver software'

NOTE: If neither of these steps resolve the issue there is one other rare instance issue to try: In your video card settings (I.e.: NVIDIA Control Panel / ATI Catalyst Control Center) if these options are available (Typically under 3D Settings Category)
Turn OFF;
- Anisotropic Filtering - OFF
- Antialiasing FXAA - OFF
- Antialiasing Mode - OFF



If you have made it to this point with no relief in lag/shuttering/fps issues I apologize and yet applaud you for your patience. There is still one more resolution that typically resolves this issue when the previous suggestions haven't. Although nobody likes to hear this final resolution it is a bitter reality


ISSUE/RESOLUTION #3.5: RE-DOWNLOAD and REINSTALL a FRESH COPY of 'EVERQUEST'

This issue, while the least common; occurs when a file within the 'EverQuestTHF' folder becomes corrupted which can happen in a multitude of ways. (If one wishes to research this theory while you await your fresh copy to finish downloading, within your EverQuestTHF folder there will typically be a '0kb' file(s) somewhere and that (typically) is the corrupted file(s))

-PREFERRED-
The 'UNDERFOOT' Download is listed in the link(s) below;
You can also view a complete list of links and an installation tutorial here:
http://www.thehiddenforest.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1763


Everquest Underfoot client - mirror1 (Chicago, Illinois, USA).
http://mirror1.thehiddenforest.org/downloads/EQ_Underfoot.zip

Everquest Underfoot client - mirror2 (Henderson, Nevada, USA).
http://mirror2.thehiddenforest.org/downloads/EQ_Underfoot.zip

-Optional-
Reinstall Everquest from your Retail disks: Make sure our client version is one of the listed compatible clients in the following link and then follow Lillu's tutorial for proper installation.
http://www.thehiddenforest.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1763


-- If any of the points made, steps advised, or explanations are unclear, or if any of the links provided are not working or files are unattainable..feel free to PM me (or preferably /tell Draklarr in-game as I don't always log into the forums) for any and all further assistance in this matter.

~This tutorial has been written, amended and provided by; Draklarr Hollowsoul of 'The Hidden Forest'
(This tutorial and executable application(s) linked here-in have been provided to you as-is and on an 'at-your-own-risk' basis.)
**(I am in no way affiliated with nor endorsed by Lillu or 'The Hidden Forest' Team.)**

~Drak
~ Draklarr Hollowsoul - The Lord of Pain

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Denizen
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Re: GUIDE; FIXED - fps/lag/gfx/Frame Shutter issues in Forest.

Post#2 » Thu Mar 23, 2017 1:33 pm

Thanks for the guide! Seems like this could even be in the Wiki along with an extraction of the many great suggestions that have been made over the years for optimal set ups for boxing configurations.
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Re: GUIDE; FIXED - fps/lag/gfx/Frame Shutter issues in Forest.

Post#3 » Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:27 am

Still can't get rid of the choppiness at character select screen and still won't let me Enter World, it just boots me to login screen. I have tried everything including a re-install. =((

My System specs:
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Memory Type - GDDR5
Core Clock - 1000 MHz

Windows Version - Windows 8.1 (64 bit)
System Memory - 16 GB
CPU Type - AMD FX(tm)-9370 Eight-Core Processor 4.40GHz

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Nimbusser
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Re: GUIDE; FIXED - fps/lag/gfx/Frame Shutter issues in Forest.

Post#4 » Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:45 am

First, try going to to your EQ-THF folder [Ex: C:\Program Files\Everquest]. Right click the folder and make sure it (and its contents) is NOT set to Read Only.

*** It is very important to NOTE: Windows loves to 'Block files that came from another computer' which is why it is so bad to copy things from old installations unless one is cautious! ***

Step 1.) Then if you did not complete this step, search for the eqclient.ini and delete it then try to log back into the game (don't bother changing any graphics settings... just attempt to log straight in). NOTE: Once logged into the game successfully, you can change your video settings. The built in setting pop-up window in the launcher is outdated and does NOT correlate to attributes of most Newer PC's well and tends to cause many bugs/issues.

Step 2.) If this doesn't work. Try deleting your any EQ shortcut you use (if you use any) then go into your Everquest folder and find eqgame.exe (if file extensions are hidden try finding ' eqgame ' with a file type | Application) Right Click > Properties > Compatibility > Run as Administrator. Also: ' Run this program in compatibility mode for: ' (I typically test first run with Windows XP Service Pack 2)

Now right click again > Send to > Desktop (create shortcut)

Step 3.) Go to your NEW shortcut on Desktop. Right Click > Properties > in Target: make sure you add the patchme [ Ex: C:\Program Files\Everquest\eqgame.exe patchme ] Also: in compatibility tab, make sure you have ' Run as Administrator ' and any compatibility mode selected same as your target eqgame.exe.

Now again, launch, don't change settings, attempt a log in. Rinse and repeat from Step 1. to try other compatibility modes. (Delete Shortcut > Delete eqclient.ini > Confirm NOT Read Only > Change Properties > Remake Shortcut on Desktop > Confirm Target Path with patchme > Edit Properties of shortcut)

If all of the above again fails (and you are sure all drivers are up to date and you followed all DX9 installation steps as written) report back or PM me so that we can get this resolved and possibly assist others along the way.
~ Draklarr Hollowsoul - The Lord of Pain

coltergiest
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Re: GUIDE; FIXED - fps/lag/gfx/Frame Shutter issues in Forest.

Post#5 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:36 pm

None of these fixes is removing the framerate issues for me. Tweaked numerous settings within the game. Using default everything, with no 3rd party software (MQ, WinEQ, etc).

Tried every one of these steps, and no improvement has been made whatsoever. This isn't just relegated to the forest area either. I've noticed a significant drop in FPS, to the point that it is impossible to play.

Perhaps the UF client is simply incompatible with newer iterations of windows?

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Re: GUIDE; FIXED - fps/lag/gfx/Frame Shutter issues in Forest.

Post#6 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:56 am

coltergiest wrote:None of these fixes is removing the framerate issues for me. Tweaked numerous settings within the game. Using default everything, with no 3rd party software (MQ, WinEQ, etc).

Tried every one of these steps, and no improvement has been made whatsoever. This isn't just relegated to the forest area either. I've noticed a significant drop in FPS, to the point that it is impossible to play.

Perhaps the UF client is simply incompatible with newer iterations of windows?


Win10 1709 here and UF client works fine, using the downloads linked in the startup post. Before logging in, open up your task manager to the performance tab. Login and when you see the issue popup check there and see what if anything is maxing out. If something is maxing out (memory, cpu or gpu) that can be a good indicator of what is causing the problem.
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coltergiest
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Re: GUIDE; FIXED - fps/lag/gfx/Frame Shutter issues in Forest.

Post#7 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:53 pm

Well nothing was out of the ordinary in the task manager, so I rooted around in my files a bit more, and the installation on this rig must've been copied from a previous machine, because every file was flagged by windows for blocking.

Didn't feel like re-downloading the .exe, so I did a little looking around, and found some info on unblocking multiple files through Window Powershell:

https://www.404techsupport.com/2016/06/ ... owershell/

Followed these steps, deleted eqclient.ini, reloaded, and now everything seems to be working fine!

Thanks!

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Re: GUIDE; FIXED - fps/lag/gfx/Frame Shutter issues in Forest.

Post#8 » Sun Apr 29, 2018 6:56 pm

Nimbusser wrote:First, try going to to your EQ-THF folder [Ex: C:\Program Files\Everquest]. Right click the folder and make sure it (and its contents) is NOT set to Read Only.

*** It is very important to NOTE: Windows loves to 'Block files that came from another computer' which is why it is so bad to copy things from old installations unless one is cautious! ***

Step 1.) Then if you did not complete this step, search for the eqclient.ini and delete it then try to log back into the game (don't bother changing any graphics settings... just attempt to log straight in). NOTE: Once logged into the game successfully, you can change your video settings. The built in setting pop-up window in the launcher is outdated and does NOT correlate to attributes of most Newer PC's well and tends to cause many bugs/issues.


For the record, this is what fixed it for me.

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