Are people finding platinum to have low appeal?

[Vaion]

I think you're selling yourself short here! I had over 450 of them at one point during Christmas and picked up another 200 and couldn't hang onto them. People were paying 5,000 - 8,000 plat each, heh. /ducks all the shoes being thrown

B/G/G

Price updated to 8k a piece!

[Sian]

Well Bordamere is right about the price being very low compared to market.
BUTin fact, it all depends what Gms and the community want : people invading DSK3 or not.

For guild that have already cleaned T8, that's a good thing and a good price because it will allow to easily flag new guildmates or alts. And well, for guild that haven't cleaned t8, I don't think they have any chance of doing anything in t9 anyway.

So all in all, to me it's a good thing because now there is NO WAY to get any symbol somewhere else than this vendor. People need 40k to get themselves flagged for chaos AND dsk3, and this is without considering evolving armor. That's a LOT without having any 50 godly points symbols dropping out of boss.
The solution Vaion is giving is to me a good idea, and it will make pp used for something useful and will stimulate the market (people will prefer to sell a lot than sell too expensive to buy symbols for example).

And as a side note, I always found that 8 or 10k per symbol was way too expensive, really WAY to expensive.

So to me it's a good idea

[Bordamere]

I know I'm going to take flak for the first post, but in all seriousness, the first price was way, WAY too low. I don't think that's too inappropriate, everyone should experience the HoH grind a little!

Edit: Meet in the middle? 5k? haha

B/G/G

[Rude]

I think you're selling yourself short here! I had over 450 of them at one point during Christmas and picked up another 200 and couldn't hang onto them. People were paying 5,000 - 8,000 plat each, heh. /ducks all the shoes being thrown

B/G/G

Price updated to 8k a piece!

Someone ban this man from the forums!

[Sian]

Price updated to 8k a piece!

...... That's way too much lol !
It was 8k a piece when symbols were being sold by people and were then, drops from t8 boss, which could be a "justification".

8 000 pp = 50 points.
Chaos access is 2 400 000 pp.
DSK3 access is 4 000 000 pp.
Without even considering armor shopping.
I don't think that there are many people having such an insane amount of money. I personally never have any, unless you start selling items for a stupidly high price and I think I spent quite some time in baz selling stuff for my own guild.

Now symbols is a regular item that anyone can buy as long as there is some cash.

If you really think that 1k is too low (and I don't really think so), please try to find an in-between because this is way too high. Or make a pool lol, but people will of course want the lowest.

I get Bordamere point that people should hunt a bit instead of buying their flag, but as I said before. People who dont hunt in HoH and Nadox won't do anything in DSK3, and people who have 15k point will still need to do all solo/group/raid task in HoH, so they will have to hunt there.
I think you pretty much got your point of finding a way to spend PP with your 1k pp per 50 points symbols.

[Rude]

Price updated to 8k a piece!

...... That's way too much lol !
It was 8k a piece when symbols were being sold by people and were then, drops from t8 boss.
8 000 pp = 50 points.
Chaos access is 2 400 000 pp.
DSK3 access is 4 000 000 pp.
Without even considering armor.
I don't think that there are many people having such an insane amount of money. I personally never have any, unless you start selling items for a stupidly high price.

Now that's a regular item that anyone can buy as long as there is some cash.

If you really think that 1k is too low (and I don't really think so), please try to find an in-between because this is way too high. Or make a pool lol, but people will of course want the lowest.

2k is much better than 8. But I like Vaion's initial idea of 1k <cough cough> Go with your gut, V!

I agree with Sian entirely T8 is no longer the best of the best, grinding through it shouldn't be like it used to. Yup, even if you have the platinum to buy your way through, you still need to kill the nameds/bosses, which is not all that easy even with max evolved items. Not to mention people still need rk2/3 spells I've dropped a ton of plat in the past on symbols at 10kish each, and I knew the moment I did it I was overpaying by a ton, but meh 1k *might* be too low, considering platinum isn't terrifically hard to farm (though neither is t8 trash hard to farm.) I think 2k a symbol is very realistic, as that's probably about the same time to point ratio.

[Sian]

I edited my previous post to answer to Bordamere fist post of "make it more expensive"
Don't think it was relevant for the reasons I mentionned :
- people still have to hunt HoH for chaos
- if they don't hunt in hoh for chaos, they won't do anything in dsk3 anyway
- hoh is more than 1 year 1/2 old at least.
- only source of points now, so price has to be different from what was the reality of the market before (item bought to a vendor VS item dropped by a t8 boss).

[Bordamere]

My only point was that I thought the first price was extremely low. At that price, it sort of cheapens the fact that I've spent/invested hundreds of hours into getting gear/flags for the toons I have. Given, I sort of want to get a few flagged and keyed for chaos/dsk3 and wasn't looking forward to the grind all over again, but I still think the initial price was too low. I don't think 2500-5k would still be *that* unreasonable and you do make a good point that with T9, leveling new toons or helping guildies would be a huge PITA without some sort of purchased system in place.

B/G/G

[jkwon84]

I think this is a great idea (the new vendor item) and the price is fair. Anything between 5-8k is good with me.

[Sian]

Well I don't think that t9 flagged people should look behind them and say "We had a really really hard time flagging our toons to t9 so new people shouldn't have an easy way in". Game has to evolve and fact is Gm have drawn DSK3 in a way that even if it doesn't require anything but godly points, you actually NEED to have hunt in Nadox and HoH to do something in the zone (kill mobs) and use plainfully the items (DSK3 armor requires fully evolved HoH armor).

Considering that, making a fast way to DSK3 (and again, Chaos access will still require to kill all hoh mobs, including zenu/twins) doesn't bother me at all.

Since old members can't help new members collecting godly symbols while they are offline to speed up their progression to catch up with them in DSK3/Chaos (as killing mobs is the only source of points now), it was a good idea to make it cheap.

To me a fair price lies between 1-3k maximum (5k per 50points symbol = 2 500 000 pp to flag ONE toon for DSK3 is way too high honestly because who does have that ammount of money in his bank? And yet it needs to be multiplied by toons who will need it).