Cant hold Agro at 70

[kaldax]

Hello!!
So I hope that this is the right place to post this if not I'm sorry, I am fairly new just started not too long ago and have my first lvl 70 as of last night and I realized something very strange as soon as I leveled to 70. I use my Paladin as my main and play him mostly but have 5 bots that I use. Group is 70 Pal, 68 clr, 68 wiz, 68 rogue, 67 ber, 67 enc. Now before the Pal hit lvl 70 I didn't have any issues with taunt or holding agro but as soon as I dinged into 70 all ability for the paladin to taunt or hold agro went to 0. My agro meter shows the paladin having anywhere from 10 to 40 % agro but the Ber will immediately no mater how long I was tanking or taunting will hit it once and take agro and the agro meter has the ber agro at 999 with one hit. Is this normal do I need to do something to fix this?

Thank you in advance for the help and Thank you all for all the hard work that goes into this server!!

Kaldax

[Adonhiram]

I am by far not a melee/tank specialist, but I assume, as you are new (welcome by the way), that they all have the same level/tier of gear ? And did you look into hate/aggro augments for your pally ? Happy riding through the raid tiers next anyhow

[mrhorrn]

Paladin agro is all about using the Stun spells. There's a number of "Force of" stun spells in your book you can use to hold agro.

Temple of Veeshan will give you your first AE agro spell (look up the ToV Plate Tank Legs) as a clicky which is really valuable so you should make sure you get those while you're clearing the zone.

[Enrikk]

Paladin agro is all about using the Stun spells. There's a number of "Force of" stun spells in your book you can use to hold agro.

Temple of Veeshan will give you your first AE agro spell (look up the ToV Plate Tank Legs) as a clicky which is really valuable so you should make sure you get those while you're clearing the zone.

Sage advice!

[kaldax]

Hi and thank you for all the suggestions. I am new to this server but I played a Paladin from launch to about 2012. the Paladin is geared about the same as others and I have the anger aug for the paladin and nobody else, but what is odd about this situation is that before I hit 70 on the paladin I had no issues at all holding agro and very rarely would another toon pull agro from me with the same gear that I have now. I was in POS when I hit 70 and the next fight is when not being able to hold agro started. Its like nothing that I do will hold or pull agro. The mobs just bounce from toon to toon completely ignoring me which is making for some interesting fights but I cant fight named without having multiple deaths.

Any suggestions?

Thanks again for the help!
Kaldax

[joffy]

If I remember correctly, a lower level player will get more aggro just because they are a squishier target. Its possible when they all get to 70 it will balance back out. But its also possible that its intended to be harder to manage aggro at higher levels. The level of what you are attacking could be 69 or 70, and that could really skew the formula too. I guess thats a really long winded way to say I don't know either.

[mrhorrn]

You cant just hold agro with auto attack no matter what augs you have. The stun spells are the Pally hate line, much like the SKs have their own hate line of spells for agro.
If you want to hold agro you have to use those

[kaldax]

If I remember correctly, a lower level player will get more aggro just because they are a squishier target. Its possible when they all get to 70 it will balance back out. But its also possible that its intended to be harder to manage aggro at higher levels. The level of what you are attacking could be 69 or 70, and that could really skew the formula too. I guess thats a really long winded way to say I don't know either.

This is exactly what I thought and as it turns out I think this is what happened. I was able to get the rest of the toons to lvl 70 and I can now pull agro when I use all items that generate hate. It was just super odd that all of the sudden I wasn't able to pull agro using stuns or items that generate hate like it did while leveling.

Thank you everyone for the help!!

[Adonhiram]

If it can help a little bit to weave in aoe stuns, there is an irtem which drops in Ssra which has a clicky Color Cloud (aoe stun enchanter spell) : Orb of the Light

It drops from Loremaster who spawns in the library at the eastern wall (north eastern part of the city). Careful his nukes/rains are aoe and deadly, you'll need a lot of group healing. But it is perfect for a tank who wanna snap quick aggro or weave in between casted stuns an insta cast aoe stun.

Don't attempt him though before having geared up a bit, he is way harder than all other named snakes in Ssra.

[xadien]

Good suggestions. Kiss of Life Procs, Rune Procs, Snare, Tash, debuff procs are great for aggro. As far as spells go, there's a retribution line for pallies that basically places a rune on you every hit, that drives mobs crazy.