what exactly is afk macroing?

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what exactly is afk macroing?

Post#1 » Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:03 pm

Can anyone please explain what AFK macroing is exactly? like specifics please

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Re: what exactly is afk macroing?

Post#2 » Sat Aug 25, 2012 6:19 pm

Developing a script to kill monsters continuously while you are away from the keyboard. Basically you set the scripts to attack the monsters as they spawn to farm while you are at work etc.
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Re: what exactly is afk macroing?

Post#3 » Sat Aug 25, 2012 6:23 pm

gotcha thanks

Microdia
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Re: what exactly is afk macroing?

Post#4 » Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:03 pm

I've come across afk macros for all types of things now. Some for afk skillups by spamming spells, tradeskills etc. I dont see the harm in the skillup one, but what about tradeskill ones to do those tedious 2000 combines etc? What is and isnt allowed in that situation?
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Re: what exactly is afk macroing?

Post#5 » Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:07 pm

Microdia wrote:I've come across afk macros for all types of things now. Some for afk skillups by spamming spells, tradeskills etc. I dont see the harm in the skillup one, but what about tradeskill ones to do those tedious 2000 combines etc? What is and isnt allowed in that situation?



FWIW, as I'm not in a position of authority...


I too at first over-analyzed this, not being familiar with MQ what-so-ever, as during the time it began getting popular (2001ish I believe?) I was a Senior Guide, hardly someone in a position to even consider "fiddling" with it. From there it carried such a taboo with nothing less than a negative reputation amongst the fair-players (as we'll call them -- as I'm not looking to spark a debate simply stating my story so-to-speak) that time went on and I never ever thought of bothering with it. THF was my first and is my only EQEmu (aside from the server I have setup to "fiddle" with EQEmu, I'm a curious fellow, if you cannot tell). When I signed up, MQ2 wasn't allowed, nor was I interested due to my avoidance in the past. Until of course the announcement went that THF would allow it.

Not knowing anything about MQ2 (and still not really, aside from the /stick command and even that I have thus far only 'heard' about -- I've yet to have time to compile MQ2 and get my hands dirty, figure of speech) I asked Vaion this very question. Though I also asked my guildmates. The answer truly was as simple as the term given to it.

If you are Away From Keyboard, and it's doing something for you, that is an AFK macro, because again, you are AFK, hence the AFK macroing, because you're Away From Keyboard, see? :) :p

I suppose there are some other obviously cheating 'features' of MQ2, such as warping (not knowing the details, but I presume by it's term, you could literally 'warp' from one side of the zone to the next -- there is an EASY method to detect this requiring not many lines of code, when compared to the EQEmu source as it sits, to say the least, those doing this WILL get caught and rightfully so -- you wanna go "fast"?, contribute to the server and get the donor boots) and I guess a few other exploits/glitches, I couldn't tell you as again, I've only just downloaded the zipped source thus far, though if I could tell you, I likely wouldn't anyway.

Detection of those using MQ2 is simple as well, or in theory it should be, given the fact that we use only one of three clients, or is it four, I dunno I use what I use that's all I really bother knowing immediately. SoD, SoF, UF and Titanium, ok, four. These are constants which sucks in the way of versatility of the EQEmu 'initiative' but, I imagine it would make for an easy way to detect MQ2, a little bit of packet tampering on the server side -should- in theory throw MQ2 for a loop since it injects itself into the client, therefore crashing it. That's just one method I would try, though, the guys here have their stuff together and know the EQEmu code like the back of their hand, as well as familiarity with the clients used, far more than me. When they say there are improved logging and detection methods implemented (checks, detection, server side packet tampering, etc.) one can bet their bottom dollar that there are.

Anyway, back on point. If it seems like "grey area" or even the slightest bit questionable, it's likely not ethically acceptable, much less allowed. Again, just a FWIW type of post. :)

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Re: what exactly is afk macroing?

Post#6 » Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:49 am

is use of the MQ2Melee plugin consider afk macroing? You still need to be at the keyboard to control you and your "bots" but it will (using a war for example) auto kick/bash, auto taunt if you lose agro, auto stop attack for enrage, etc.

while it requires you to be at the keyboard to give the "attack" command, after that, the plugin does all the fighting for you (for that one mob, you need to command the attack after each death).
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Bareth
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Re: what exactly is afk macroing?

Post#7 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:42 pm

Stickybuds wrote:is use of the MQ2Melee plugin consider afk macroing? You still need to be at the keyboard to control you and your "bots" but it will (using a war for example) auto kick/bash, auto taunt if you lose agro, auto stop attack for enrage, etc.

while it requires you to be at the keyboard to give the "attack" command, after that, the plugin does all the fighting for you (for that one mob, you need to command the attack after each death).


You can add a line of code that will turn on attack.

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Dellanx
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Re: what exactly is afk macroing?

Post#8 » Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:51 pm

I have a cure for any macroing! Get ISBOXER then MQ2 want work. My mother had a saying "Cheat the conductor buy a ticket for the Bus and then walk!" Same in this case. :D
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Re: what exactly is afk macroing?

Post#9 » Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:52 am

Where was this a year ago? Lol.
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Re: what exactly is afk macroing?

Post#10 » Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:45 am

I have never used a third party program in the last 2 years. Personally I welcome being able to have stick and the map feature. For boxing 5-6 toons at any given time stick is fantastic. One of the other features is the expanded discription when looking at an item. This really helps learn what items do on the fly without having to look them up.

We all know running any afk macros while not a the keyboard is not a good thing and was never intended for people to do, the devs have made that very clear. Also using the warping feature to me is a total cheat.

My grandma always said " If it feels wrong, don't do it".

AFK marcos always went against my grain And what fun is that, just letting the computer do the work for you, there is no accomplishment in that.

All I would say stay with in the guide lines that the Devs have set up, and be happy we have the ablity to use this program. If you can't then guess you will be amoung the ban. 8-)
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