[poll] through the wall..

[zeiksz]

No idea about you, but I dislike that mobs can heal through walls.. just like they "may" dislike that we can heal through the wall as well. Heal spells do not need line of sight to land.

I was just retrying AltAdv in warrens and found bit hard that creatures were healed over and over the walls of that dungeon - shamen were close enough to heal, but not in same room, not in sight.. all those duhh kobolds are in same group it seems, huh?

What do you think about this game rule?

[oopa]

I think it is difficult when mobs heal through the wall but really, it adds to the adventure and danger status really imo. I really enjoy being able to heal with my cleric non LOS, make raiding more managable where your not relying on 14 clerics to heal a 20 person raid because of a spell aoe or something. Honestly, should just remain how it is.

[Tyler]

It's generally Beneficial Spells that don't require LoS and i think it's good that way (from a Player point of view).

[Zilar]

Other -- I HATE that mobs can heal through walls, it's so annoying in many many zones. At the same time, you really need players to be able to heal through walls. Some mobs absolutely require your healers to be hidden from AE spells, or else they'll die/get mana drained/etc.

If you can make it so that this rule only applies to NPC's, I say do it.

[Omle]

Take this this away and you will make mobs with Aoe 10x harder its already hard enough without worrying bout healers.


You try healing when your silenced....

[Szai]

this is how its been in eq since the beginning of time, plus with so many people boxing chars it would be a pain to make everyone's healers joust aoes

[Zolzimar]

I went other. Although it seems like a double standard sorta, I can agree with the balancing issue when raiding. If you force the healers out, you would have to rebalance the raid encounters possibly. So, It is probably best to leave the pc side of things that way. I know we made the bots use LoS, but I dunno if they are having to use it for beneficial spells.. I think that was just assist/attack stuff. As for mobs rule, I think what we have is an issue where there could be way too much to mess with coding to make it fair, although I dont have any real experience with tweaking code. The mobs all act like they are grouped with local mobs they are factioned with, which could just be help radius issue?. This alone seperates our situation from theirs, so it pretty much tells me we either leave things they way they are, or leave pc the way they are, and make mobs use LoS.

[Kamelen]

I like it the way it is, beneficial out of los is one of the things that make EQ, EQ.

[wolfy67]

I went with other. I think if the emu code itself were fixed to prevent falling through floors and being summoned into walls then LoS would be acceptable. As it is, there would be nothing worse then your tank dieing because you can't see him. Sure, on his screen he and the mob are fine. But on my screen they've dropped through the floor (again) so I have no idea how close the mob is to dying... I just target him in the group window and heal like we're going to win. If LoS were implemented now it would cause more problems then it would resolve.

Perfect example - KC - camp the warlord's room and watch all the players/pets/mobs from the jail rooms above drop on your head. Constantly. It's half funny, half sad.

I can't speak about raid encounters as I'm a casual player but from the comments above it seems like LoS would be a detriment to those battles as well.

[macash]

Leave it as it is. Its a wanted feature that original eq has and should be part of this.
If you would implement LOS you would have to adjust every single class due to better resists since any AOE will destroy your group ASAP. Or the healer does go OOM very fast.
I say this not from a raid point of view i am talking general for group content... Raid content will be at least 10X harder and this drives players away.

Falara
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